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There's sherp_a_pee..
Knew she couldn't stay away from this one.
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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A rifle using standard velocity ammo with a suppressor tend to be louder than without the suppressor. I don't know what to say, I just felt compelled to quote that. This place is amazing, ain't it? someone doesn't know a brake from a suppressor
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I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
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A rifle using standard velocity ammo with a suppressor tend to be louder than without the suppressor. I don't know what to say, I just felt compelled to quote that. This place is amazing, ain't it? someone doesn't know a brake from a suppressor She insists she does.. Of course, the old girl hasn't been outside in years, but that's why she fits in with the freakshow regulars so well.
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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There's sherp_a_pee..
Knew she couldn't stay away from this one. Just sherp and I am a male. Of course I will be here giving credit where credit is due. Surprised you are here though. Thought that on Sundays you take playground photos to Taylor Bain at Montana State Prison?
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Hey sherp, what brand camera do you not own?
And tell us more about your law enforcement career. Derby is slacking in the humor department.
Thanks,
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Hey sherp, what brand camera do you not own?
And tell us more about your law enforcement career. Derby is slacking in the humor department.
Thanks,
Travis Why would I tell you about something I do not own instead of telling you about the type of camera I do own? That makes as much sense as you asking about me being in LE which you have been told repeatedly that I am not. Just a simple civilian police supporter and I support exactly the same police actions you support.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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We did a security / threat assessment for a local Target several years ago. You don't think about it, but there are 100 yard shots available in most stores of that type. The parking lot stretched out to 400 yards. Suppressors for police, sure. Mall Ninjas, oh hell no.
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But they need them for their custom take down single shot 300 Win Mags. You know, the ones that they provide cover with by using their ceramic plate accessorized brief cases
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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The police, or any other local or federal government agency can get suppressors now without the tax stamp. The purchase order just has to written on your department letterhead to the manufacturer. I even ordered one for my wildlife specialist duties. No biggie. I just don't think there needs to be any restrictions on them whatsoever...  For those that have not shot one... A .223 suppresses to sound like a report of somewhere between a .22lr and a .22 Mag. It ain't the little "Pffttt" we hear I the James Bond movies. But, it does help with hearing issues down the road. Hot damn - a straight-forward, common-sense answer.
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The police, or any other local or federal government agency can get suppressors now without the tax stamp. The purchase order just has to written on your department letterhead to the manufacturer. I even ordered one for my wildlife specialist duties. No biggie. I just don't think there needs to be any restrictions on them whatsoever... For those that have not shot one... A .223 suppresses to sound like a report of somewhere between a .22lr and a .22 Mag. It ain't the little "Pffttt" we hear I the James Bond movies. But, it does help with hearing issues down the road. Hot damn - a straight-forward, common-sense answer. Take a screen shot of it. Almost never happens
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All AR, M-16 platforms should be suppressed. They are loud as hell and it sucks when you get 7 or 10 guns busting rounds off all around you. 1,000 times worse in a ship or oil rig.
The beauty of a suppressor in combat is that if you are being shot at, you will not know the direction of the shooter which is extremely helpful for a miss or multiple engagements. Also, it tends to draw considerably less attention and return fire to the user.
Suppressed rifles are great for maintaining S/A (situational awareness). It keeps stress down on team mates and allows for normal communications. They all but wipe out muzzle flash.
I have no problem with cops having them. Everyone should be able to get them without all the hooha circle jerk with ATF etc...
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But I like these guys! ![[Linked Image]](http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/lt13demi/Mobile%20Uploads/image-1250.jpg) Interesting picture from yesteryear. The thing I was looking for was what kind of magazine were they using......stick or drum!?? I saved the picture out, zoomed in on it to try and figure it out. I put a red box around the area where I'd think a magazine should be viewable, presuming that the guy is holding onto a pistol grip. I also added a smaller blue box around what appears to be the guy's badge, behind where one would think a stick or drum magazine would be....thoughts?? ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/XPLRN/2014/24HourCampfire/ThompsonMagazineQuestion_zps57c798a4.jpg)
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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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That was probably the case, another situation of PC/publicity neutering, "Oh we can't have a picture of our popo with a loaded Thompson!!"......oh the shame?? I wonder when that picture was first published/presented to the public how many folks noted there was no magazine!!? :-)
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Suppressors kick ass.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What happen to Derby?
Suppressing his inner tranny? I think it's getting louder.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Suppressors kick ass.
Travis Save that for a thread about suppressors.
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I'd love to see 12" AR's and something like an Elite Iron CQC on every AR in the country.
Suppressors are a lot like armored cars, and helmets. Only those driven by emotion find them offensive.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sorry did not realize suppressors were for a rifle. A word of caution if the purpose is to reduce the noise of a rifle, most likely a .223, inside of a building one would have to use sub-sonic ammo in order for the suppressor to be of much of an advantage. A rifle using standard velocity ammo with a suppressor tend to be louder than without the suppressor. Inside of a building the noise with suppressor is even louder. I asked a retired military sniper why that is so and he said the suppressor reduces noise down range but blows the noise back at the shooter. Our outdoor range is enclosed on three sides with a roof. One time up at the range there were a group of guys shooting everything from pistols to rifles with suppressors and all the weapons using standard velocities ammo with suppressors were extremely loud with the suppressors attached. Only the sub-sonic ammo which included .22lr were quiet and hearing protection wasn't needed. Everything else needed hearing protection not to harm one's hearing. Before departments start buying suppressors I would check them out especially inside of buildings with different brands of ammo including sub-sonic and make sure everybody is wearing hearing protectors. You are a fugging moron. Travis
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All I can say is make damn sure you are wearing hearing protection if you shoot a weapon with a suppressor using standard velocity ammo especially inside a building. Don't say you haven't been warned.
Holy fugg.... Travis
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