Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Police shoot man running around with air rifle in Wal-Mart (video)

The gun in question had no orange tip... http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosman_MK_177_Tactical_Pneumatic_Air_Rifle_Black/3180

It looks to me like he was at a minimum shooting products inside the store. At 750-800 fps, BB's would be ricocheting wildly. Either pellets or BB's hitting products would probably be pretty loud on top of the discharge of the gun...don't kid yourself...that gun could kill you. Whether or not the cops were in the wrong, I have no idea. I'm sure the grand jury had better information than a news report & the meager video posted...

Hawkeye will be along momentarily to explain why jurors of any description are terrified of police retaliation.

I've had to tell people that their apartment building was engulfed in flames before because they simply had no idea. And after they walked outside and saw that five doors down the whole building was on fire, flames shooting into the sky and a bakers dozen fire trucks and ambulances were right outside their door.....I had to answer the question of whether they really had to leave.

So no, I don't put much stock in the fact that the lady buying Oreos in the grocery section didn't know that there was a dude with a gun in sporting goods.

Heck, when I'm forced to shop at Wal-Mart I keep my head down and avoid eye contact too. How embarrassing would it be to have someone you know recognize you and know you shop there? I'd have to come up with some lame excuse like, "Oh no. I'm not shopping.....I'm just here to meet a midget prostitute. He should be here any minute." Anything would be better than being known as a Wal-Mart customer.

Too late.

I'd say don't be a douchebag, but it appears too late. You're already a douchebag.

I'm flattered. Truly

LOL
Why is it you want to start name-calling when you have been proven wrong?

Why not just admit it like a grown-up?

I don't know what A/S's motives were for claiming to do a 180 on this, but I doubt truth had much to do with it.

Can't bring yourself to watch the video slowly can you. Just cant imagine your fantasy land narrative of things is made up bullschiet. Keep pumpin away princess

You ignorant bastard, he was intimidated by the campfire police members.

I know for a fact that someone held his sack in a melon baller with a blow torch at the ready.

I've watched it several times. He made an effort to drop it as soon as it registered in his mind that a cop was issuing commands to him to do so. There's no rational way to interpret the video as the victim getting ready to engage the police in a shootout. The shooting began almost instantaneously with his efforts to put the gun on the ground.

Cops should have, from a distance, via megaphone or store speaker systems, announced their command for him to lower the weapon and place his hands behind his head (or whatever else would satisfy the police).

You would never change your mind, would you.

Please show us the documentation of all of your police tactics and training

Keep watchinbTV princess, this wasn't a hostage situation

Admit to what? That the cops clearly killed a man with a toy gun and didn't even try non-lethal means?

I'm not wrong.

toy gun



not toy gun

Not sure how this clears the cops for shooting a guy who appears to me to be laying his "weapon" down

well i hope folks can understand your edits to my post but allow me to retort:

1) the "toy" gun is not available in the toy aisle, its available at sporting goods isle.

2) he was not shot in the toy aisle, he was in the pet f'n food aisle.

3) WHO cares if a gun being used by a criminal - real or perceived - is available at the place of the offense.

Really?

Put yourself in the cops shoes.

They get a call for a guy with a gun at McDonalds, and they know that can't be the case because you can't get a gun off the menu?

For f*ck sake, dude.

If the attitude of the cops here at the Fire, and those of their toadies here at the Fire, is indicative of the attitudes of American cops in general, nothing short of a mass firing of cops, top to bottom in the chain of command, is going to correct the problems we're experiencing as a nation vis-a-vis the rampant abuses of the rights of citizens by cops.

Actually our local walmart did have a couple of SCARs for sale,

But i see your point, police now need to be inventory specialists for walmart. I'll pass that on.

You need to catch a bus to fairy land with stink eye

Or...it's just we're tired of listening to sniffly nosed, mealy mouthed pimple faced fuggheads like you that are too paranoid to leave their basements and have absolutely zero clue of the job telling us how we need to do the job.

Are you this vocal about the cops in your town at town meetings?