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When I was a student at Michigan Tech, we had an indoor pistol range on campus. I was a range officer for the pistol club. There was another RO watching the firing line and I was working in the office, getting a student outfitted with glasses, hearing protection, ammo, and a Ruger MK II. The student I was helping started talking about shooting his Savage 7mm RM. Said he had chronographed his 175 gr loads at 4400 FPS. I asked him if he meant 2400 FPS from a starting load? He kept on the 4400 fps tale, and claimed he had the chrono printouts to prove it. I laughed and said that any 7mm RM would likely blow the bolt out the back of the rifle long before it could produce 4400 fps with a 175 gr bullet. He said he'd bring in the printouts the next time he came. I laughed some more and said it doesn't matter, because that speed is BS. He tried harder to convince me; but I eventually said that he was either a liar, or an idiot who didn't know how to use his chronograph. At that point he left in a huff. He never did come back when I was working.

while reading on another thread, the subject reminded me of an incident from several years past;


several years ago, my wife and i would climb the "M" approximately every 2 or 3 days, just to stay in reasonable shape.

on occasion, a friend would join us.

one particular night our friend Pete M. wanted to go, but we both had prior commitments, and couldn't go--and subsequently, Pete went by himself that evening.

after he had climbed the "M" and had come back down, he saw a group of several guys parked down in the lot, and they were partying--according to him--on booze and ditch weed.

they had very deliberately blocked in his car so he couldn't leave, and then started harassing him--shoving him around, and giving him a hard time in general. they had their fun with it for awhile, and after a fashion, they finally let him go--laughing at him as he went to get in his car to leave.

it shook him up aplenty.

a couple days later, while we were headed to climb the "M", he told me about the incident and said, "if you had been along that evening it wouldn't have happened."

i told him, "you know Pete, that's pure BS--what you really needed was the Weasel (scenarshooter), for that situation--not me.

he excitedly replied, "i wanted the Equalizer--not the Terminator!!"

we've all laughed about that remark for years...

Well, all this is well and good, and I have run into most of these storys, or their near-match at least. However, on the other side, there are also a very, very few which just happen too actually be True. As an example, I have a buddy some locals like to call "Lyin' Jimmie" because of some of his tales. The problem is, he's the best and most consistent shot I've ever known. He's just a po' country boy, and doesn't look at all the part of a real shootist, but he IS. I've had friends tell me about some of his "lies," and I'd have to tell them that I was THERE and they're actually true. The guy has vision I can't even understand, much less hope for. I've always sought out the best shots I could to shoot with, and it's good advice to anyone. Jimmie was raised on the river banks by his grandpa and grandma, and the first time dark caught him in the woods, he was 8 yrs. old. He shot his first deer at 6. His grandpa hunted and fished for a meager living, had a large garden, and did farm work seasonally for his cash money. His grandpa was a great shot, and taught him to shoot as soon as he could hold a gun up, and he taught him well, too. When grandpa paid for the bullets, he EXPECTED some meat every time the gun fired, except for sighting in or checking the sights after the gun took a blow in the boat or wherever. Lots of these types are no better shots than the rest of us, but ol' Jimmie was a natural, and I'm thankful we've been fast friends for so long. He's a good-hearted fellow and will do all in his power to make a person a better shot. He's very free with advice, and likes a good competition. I've offered him SOME competition, but his eyes were so superior there was just no way I'd be able to beat him very often, but he knew I wouldn't be too far behind, at least, and he liked that.

So ..... despite the fact that you and I both know that 99.9% of these claims, especially the ones about offhand shooting, are as bogus as a whore in church, there ARE a few - maybe 1 in 10,000 - that are really true. One reason I've always respected Jimmie is that he always declares his "scratch" shots as just luck, but he's had so many opportunities, and taken them, that at least SOME of them just HAD to be True, and I know that because I've been witness to some of them, and he's got many, many more that have witnessed too many of his other tales, so ..... if a guy BETS you, and is serious about it, that he can do what he says, it'd be a good idea to think several times before betting any substantial amount and losing it. There ARE some amazing shots among us, and they don't always take kindly to being called liars by people who don't believe anyone else can do what they can't do. The liars will never bet good money on duplicating their feats, so .... the wise will always know how to tell the difference.

My last elk...

You should've backed off some, it would've looked bigger.

Elmer......is that you?

You sure that wasn't your FIRST elk?

Nope that was the 4th the others were bigger.

My quail hunting partners

worse yet they vote...

I was pestering a buddy who worked the counter in a local gun store and in walked a sharply dressed man.
"I need a gun that's big enough for a bear"
Do you have something in mind?
"I'm thinkin a .45, my buddy is a cop in Chicago and he recommends a .45"
Do you have a preference in .45s?
"I don't know, I just moved here and we had this friggin bear on the porch last night"
I couldn't keep quiet, "You're from Chicago, you're supposed to like "Da Bears".
He left with no pistol but did have the DOW phone number!

I bet you have a hard time with muzzle control around them......pun intended.

my muzzle control there would be like steel and a magnet....

Of course IIRC Keith had little education. And if you re-read that post, it could indicate that the bone off the top of the spine had cleared. It never said it severed the spine at all. ANd since it ran off, you can figure it didn't. Its very possible that the bullet only frag'd off a 1 inch piece of bone.

Which could or could not kill or paralyze the deer.

I"m not saying he didn't lie, but I am saying that its may not mean what folks interpret it to.

And it could be that a larger round/bullet may well have made the difference in that instance. Or not.

Of course if they'd have shot it in the lungs like you are supposed to, it wouldn't have mattered or required a 2nd shot.

Like I said I like some of Keiths theories. And its made me try some shots on targets that I though he was nuts, but you find that you could do if you shot enough probably.

Regardless otehr than a 270 I own I'd never buy a 270. LOL.

Jeff

Have a local "expert" famous hunter who once wrote up his exploits with recurves (more prestigious than compounds) on big bucks. Funny when we looked at his bow, the rug rest and side plate had NO wear marks! Plus, his stories in the PBS magazine were always identical, except for the buck's current nickname! His eyes would blink when we asked a lot of details about the hunts.
Guess that's why I don't watch TV hunt programs, especially for whitetails! Take most hunting stories with a big grain of salt.

Me and a pard went goose hunting last year...

Setting out your decoy spread must be a real bitch....

[quote=eh76]My quail hunting partners

I'm watching the aTm vs Ole MIss game while I scroll through this thread, and the commentators mentioned something about "needing better penetration" just as I saw this picture of my two old girlfriends...

As to the real topic, there's a local BSer who once told me he was hunting horseback and saw a group of elk out in a flat. He allegedly spurred his horse on, catching the elk off guard enough so that he rode right into the group of fleeing elk then pulled out his sidearm and began firing - killing 4 or 5.

i load my guns so hot that i sight them 6in low at 100yds because they are still rising out to 700yds.at 1000-1200yds that put them deadon.