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Yeah, they're the same powder.
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Besides, if you want to shoot 140s, they make .270s for that�. What! Is this a "coming out" announcement...? DF
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Besides, if you want to shoot 140s, they make .270s for that�. What! Is this a "coming out" announcement...? DF Oh Nooooooo..... another 270 lover out of the closet.
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Hey my father smelled of gooseberries.
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Believe it or not, I just finished off the last of the chiles you sent me. thanks again for that! My wife lived in NM for awhile and was really tickled that she got to scorch and peel them!
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I have tried several loads with 4350 in my 7x57 , but it just doesn't gives me the accuracy that Hod 4831 does. My favorite deer bullet in the 7x57 is the Sierra 160 gr BTHP with Hod 4831SC
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Ingwe
Just had 2 bushels roasted. One of Mirasol a local medium hot variant grown east Pueblo CO and one of Poblano also locally grown which is slightly milder. Usually go through about 1 -2 bushels a year. Addicting stuff.
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Mule Deer
231 = HP38 296 = H110 760 = H414 = A2700 MRP = RL22
Any others to add to the list?
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Allegedly:
Norma 204=RL-19 Norma 203B=RL-15 MRP2/now Norma 217=RL-25
And ADI/Hodgdon equivalents:
AS30N=Clays AS50N=International AP7ON=Universal AR2205=H4227 AR2207=H4198 AR2219=H322 Bench Mark2=BenchMark AR2206H=H4895 AR2208=Varget AR2209=H4350 AR2213SC=H4831 AR2217=H1000 AR2225=Retumbo AR2218=H50BMG
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I've owned over a dozen 7x57's now (and am planning yet another) ... Alright, John, let's hear the details! And thanks for the info. I'm collecting 7x57 data since sometime soon I hope to start doing something I haven't done since the early 1980s: handload. I enjoyed your "beginning handloading" article in Guns magazine as I'm going to be starting from ground zero again. It was helpful. But back to the details.... Mike
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It's actually not a completely new rifle. My NULA Model 24 .30-06's barrel is getting a little tired, and is also a 24" #2. I'm getting older and along becoming less fond of hauling around any extra weight, either on me or my gear.
Also don't tolerate recoil like I used to, and don't travel as much, where taking a .30-06 can come in handy if you need more ammo. Haven't found an '06 kills big game any deader than the 7x57 does, either.
Found a take-off, like-new, 22" #1 contour 7x57 NULA (Douglas) barrel here on the Campfire and will screw it on sometime soon, though whether before the hunting season just coming up is doubtful. It will save about a half-pound of weight, and still kill stuff.
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Nice!
Isn't it funny how weight/recoil/etc become issues as we get older? Or is it just becoming a bit wiser....
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Actually, I can still shoot rifles of heavier recoil fine. Last year I did two articles for AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where I had to shoot .300 Winchester Magnums quite a bit off the bench in various tests.
But I don't want to if somebody's not paying me--or there's some other compelling reason, like a Cape buffalo.
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But I don't want to if somebody's not paying me--or there's some other compelling reason, like a Cape buffalo. Cash or Cape Buffalo - yeah, that'd do it!!
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Anyone here with experience using Ramshot powders in the 7x57?
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Big Game works pretty darn well, since it's close to H414/W760 in burn rate, but far more temperature-resistant and cleaner burning. Hunter also works well with heavier bullets, say from 150 grains up. It's burn rate is usually a little slower than the 4350's, around Reloder 19's.
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Thanks John....have both Big Game and Hunters on hand. With a pair of brand new Model 70 7x57's I was hoping they would work well.
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What is a good load with Hunter and the 160 gr bullet?
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