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I'd avoid the 2.5-8x Leupold, it looks as if steady use might lead to Melanoma...

Just the facts from a non-statistical sample of the "average hunter":

Every year about this time a lot of rifles are checked for zero at my place. I am there for each one (nobody allowed there alone). Most of the time I end up doing the shooting. Its usually the same crowd every year with the same rifle and scope. Most scopes are Leupolds of some sort or the Zeiss Conquest. These are most all capped scopes, no external adjustments. The last person that touched the adjustments was me the prior year. Most all rings are now Talley LW's (in other words, the rings aren't moving). Most always its the same ammo and lot/load as used the prior year.

Way more times than not the scope needs adjusting. I'm not talking about a click or two, but big swings. Sometimes its huge. Within the last week one was off at least 20".

Scopes that consistently have problems before the first day of shooting is over, don't give me a warm fuzzy.


You are correct that the average hunter will never "wear out a 4200, Conquest, or VX3". Of course the average hunter shoots less than a box of ammo a year, is "sighted in" when he's somewhere near the center of a paper plate, "zeroes" with the cheapest ammo and "hunts" with the good stuff, shoots with his barrel on the rest and drives his 4 wheeler up to the shooting house overlooking a food plot.

He wouldn't notice if the zero moved 2 inches let alone half an inch. He wouldn't think to, nor understand how to check whether his scope is tracking correctly and consistently. The most abuse he offers a rifle is pulling it from the padded safe, into a padded case, in a padded truck.

In short the average hunter isn't a barometer of much of anything.

Or spend 1/2 the money and get a SWFA SS 6X MQ, spend $30 on the easy to use zero stop kit, and call it a day.

I've never seen a 2.5-8 Leupold before.....

That's laughable at best.

Spend a week at a public range and get back to me.




Travis

I don't need to see proof of anything in which I already know to be fact. 42 years around "average hunters" verifies such. Not sure what kind of clowns you hang out with at the range, but I don't consider everyone at the range I frequent to be average hunters.

Note to self.....tactical shooters and knob twisters are the only source of accurate information on anything hunting. Thanks for the tip!

You'll trade me two SWFA SS 6X MQ for one leupold? Which Leupold? I've got a couple laying around, in like new condition, I'd traid for two SWFA SS 6X MQ in same condition. What is the warranty on SWFA SS 6X MQ? Lifetime? Transferable?
Want to try a couple so maybe we could work something out on a 2 for 1 deal.
Pete

Was the topic about "hunting" skills?


Why get so upset over an inanimate object?

You're a very emotional person.



Travis

I don't get upset or emotional about inconsequential topics such as optics, or the guys that make asinine statements such as......



or the people who defend them.

Pete,

What I said was you can buy two 6X MQs for the same smack as one Leupold with an M1. And be twice as happy.

I have one Leupold left, and you'll see it advertised here soon.

I have 2 6x and one 12X SS, and I'll keep them.

I don't expect to buy or trade for anymore Leupolds.

The average hunter can't shoot worth a pile of dog poop.

No telling what idiots might be doing with their rifles. I've not had a problem.

I can't believe nobodies mentioned Simmons.

In the most recent case of 20"+ shift I know exactly what did it. The guy has a habit of tossing the rifle in the bed of a Ranger and bouncing around off road. Of course he tries to cushion it but apparently is not successful. .

I highly suspect vibration while traveling off road is what moves most of them.

So why did you present this the first time as a case in point of regular old hunting scopes not holding zero, when in fact it was tossed around in the bed of the truck? Just curious, that's all.

Because it didn't hold zero.

I'm sure they are all nice stable stocks that are well bedded too...