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Out of curiosity, what led up to the shot on said elk?
IME elk that go far after good hits were usually "bumped" before the shot. Just saw this. This elk had its head down grazing. She had no idea I was there until the shot.
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WOW, this thread has gone all over the place from what I started. Interesting and funny.
I've loved every rifle I have ever had, and I've had a lot. I never seen an elk drop faster than from my 338WM and I've never seen a moose drop faster than from my 264 WM.
The one thing similar was they were hit well. A 270 will do the same.
End of story.
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The one thing similar was they were hit well. A 270 will do the same.
End of story. Mac I am a dedicated fan of the 270. The last elk I got was a spike bull with one. One shot through the heart @ about 125 yards and it took us about 5 hours to get him off the mountain. I was using the 130 gr. Hornady Interlock. Hopefull tomorrow I will be out seeing if I can get his sister with the same rifle & load.
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You'll wound less game and have more fun in the process.
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NRALife I was following everything you said until the last sentence. The last sentence in your post is like spreading bad icing over a good cake. Agreed. I shoot 300 WSM's without muzzle brakes or 1" recoil pads. I do wound game though, terminally & mortally. Haven't lost one yet.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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After shooting a couple doz. elk with a 270, I see no benefit whatever in a 130 over a 150. You won't see hardly any difference in trajectory and the 150 will carry a bit more energy at long range. It's just a bit more cushion for a less than ideal hit.
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After shooting a couple doz. elk with a 270, I see no benefit whatever in a 130 over a 150. You won't see hardly any difference in trajectory and the 150 will carry a bit more energy at long range. It's just a bit more cushion for a less than ideal hit. Amen, and at these prices, why don't people just use em: http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosl...0-150gr-partition-spitzer-blem-50ct.htmlThese have shot great in all of my 270's. They just make more sense. Ideally so, since this is the "elk hunting" forum and not the deer hunting forum...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk.
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. My smith/Winchester guru buddy has shot countless elk with the old 130gr. grand slam. He says, "that's the best bullet out there for elk hunting"... I say use whatever works best for you. However, I'm in agreement with rockchuck in using a 150gr. partition for the reasons he stated. My rifles also love that bullet, which sways my decision. At $16.95/bag, it's really hard to say no too . I actually loaded some old 150gr. grand slams for one of my buddies to try on elk this year. His only big game rifle is a 270 Winchester. He's not "loony" like the rest of us
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. Stunt shooter!!!! LOL
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. My smith/Winchester guru buddy has shot countless elk with the old 130gr. grand slam. He says, "that's the best bullet out there for elk hunting"... I say use whatever works best for you. However, I'm in agreement with rockchuck in using a 150gr. partition for the reasons he stated. My rifles also love the 150gr. partition, which sways my decision. At $16.95/bag, it's really hard to say no too . I actually loaded some old 150gr. grand slams for my buddy to try on elk this year. His only big game rifle is a 270 Winchester. He's not "loony" like the rest of us My Winchester Super Grade .270 will shoot the 130,140,150,160 gr NP,s into elk killin' groups. BUT,my FN Mauser .270 will not shoot the 130 gr at all! It likes the 150 gr NP. So,basically have the best of both worlds.
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. Stunt shooter!!!! LOL
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. Stunt shooter!!!! LOL Nothing like living on the edge huh..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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This is a chart that I copied from gundata.org comparing 130 and 150 gr bullets. Both are Hornady SP Interlocks. Naturally the 150 will drop farther but you have to compensate for either one. You have to know what the drop is so you only need to know different numbers. If you want to shoot at 300 yds, it's only a matter of remembering 11" or 13". You still have to compensate for drop. However, the 150 will be packing more energy at any range beyond 50 yds. The difference isn't much but on a less-than-perfect hit, it can make the difference.
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Wouldn't hesitate to use a .270 130 gr Nosler Partition on elk. Stunt shooter!!!! LOL Nothing like living on the edge huh.. Yeah,and use a 4x scope too.
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I'm a fan of the 140's myself my model 70 in a std 270 loves the 140gr hornady boat tails my 270 wsm likes the 140 accubonds.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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My .270 Wby likes the 140 & 160 gr NP's. Use the 160 gr NP just cause I can.
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A 30/30 works great with 170gr. RN too..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Can a 30/30 send a 170 gr RN at 3050 fps.
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Can a 30/30 send a 170 gr RN at 3050 fps. Does the 160 gr. nosler partition loose out to the 150 gr. partition in BC?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Don't know,as my shots at elk are within 30/30 range ie 200 yds or less.
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