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I have the Leupold Ultimate Slam scope with SABR reticle on my Savage MLII. Great scope for the money and I really like the reticle design they used for distance holdovers. My gun matches perfectly out to 200 yards when I have it on 7 power, which is listed as the "2 pellet" load on the instructions. Zero for 100 and it has hold under/over marks for 50, 150, 200, 250 and 300. I haven't had a chance to try anything beyond 200yds yet and even that is usually a few shots at the range for the fun of it. I don't really have plans to take it beyond 100 in the field.


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I have a Leupold 4x standard reticle on my TC, shooting 250 Hornady Speed Sabots over 150. I have not tried one of the newer muzzleloading reticles, but may next year.


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IMO drop isnt the big bugaboo anyway. I wouldnt worry about chasing the very last few fps just to flatten trajectory.

My go-to ML load has 19inches of drop at 200 yards. That's only flat by archery standards. I'm 3 for 3 over 200 yards. IMO/E More important is good range estimation, a very good field rest, and an accurate load that wil lretain penetration and expansion at distance and up close.

Now if you can get that with a zippy load, great, but IMO i'd hold (pun!) trajectory as 3rd or 4th in line (did it again!).

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The 10 and 20 is crosswind (mph) corrections.


FH, with open sights on my TC Hawken, I prefer to be 3 in high at 100.


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3-9x40 matte Redfield Revoluton with standard duplex reticle, bulldog tough, light-weight, and backed up with a lifetime no questions asked warranty from Leupold..........WIN WIN WIN. smile


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
I like the 6Xs, but need a little more low-end for the close stuff. Two of the last three deer I've taken were at 20-25 yards and a 6 is pretty full of brown at that range. Either a 3-9 or a 2-7 is plenty bright at the low end.

30mm scopes are too heavy for my taste and too pricey for an old retired fat man. Some of the optics are pretty amazing though.



A 6x will still have 3-4 ft FOV at 20 yds. As long as you weren't trying to get on a running deer you would have no problems. I have a number of 6X's and never had an issue. Its by far my favorite scope. In fact back in my younger days when I hunted with 3-9 I usually just left it on 9X and never had an occasion where I wished I had less magnification.

In fact except for some pretty specialized uses (shooting groups, or trying to decide if a deer had 4 points on a side (to be legal to shoot) have I ever wished for more or less magnification.

Once I realized this I tended towards fixed 6's (and some times 4s for shorter ranged things).

My inline wears a 6x42, mostly because in my opinion its about the most comfortable, brightest and toughest scope you can get for $400. I could do with a 4X with no problems, but I think the 6x42 is a better low light scope than the 4x32.


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Originally Posted by 2muchgun
Mine wears a new VX2 3-9x40 with heavy duplex. Nothing better for $300 IMO.....


Did you order it from the Custom Shop with the heavy or send one in for retrofit. If retro what did it cost? thx


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sightron s1h 3-9x40
plan on upgrading to a lupy vx2 3-9x40 after the season is over

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Tc Omega Banner 3x9 of some sort bought gun used scope included works ok have 4x Banner shot gun scope will put on it eventually Have TC scout iron sights, flinter iron sights.


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I shoot a Burris 2-7X35 Fullfield 2 on my T/C Impact. I bought the Impact with a 1.75-4X32 Bushnell extended eye relief scope, which is what I have on my Mossy 500 slug gun. Most of my shots are under 50 yards, so I don't need that much magnification. I usually shoot at three to four power, but go higher when sighting in. I have had the Burris on my rifle since 2010 and shot three deer with it (I had a couple of years of no deer). I take one check shot at the beginning of the season and have not made a correction since I sighted the scope in. I fired three times this year, my first shot punched the center of a target at 36 yards and my other two shots took two deer, one at around 15 yards and one at around 35 yards. Both shots were within a couple of inches of the point of aim. The area that I hunt has so much brush, that long range shots just simply aren't possible. I like this scope a lot and would not hesitate to get another one. The price is very reasonable.

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