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This is exactly what I was talking about. It's BS........

Would you like to see a federal hunting license to hunt on federal land? This would entail federal game wardens to enforce federal law. It also would mean that all game animals on federal land belong to the feds. How do we keep the animals on federal land from crossing over onto state and private land?

Too bad posters haven't looked as to why the feds control public lands and why the manage as they do. Also interesting how some one in particular seems to know alot about CO yet hasn't hunted in how long?

AS far as access - I only have 52% lung capacity been down with congestive heart problems, have a thoroughly screwed back along with other such minor problems. Where was I a week ago? Between 9500 and 11,000 ASL chasing critters and not whining about how I can't.

Campfire my butt, this is the whinefest.

Folks can't figure out hunting is a state regulated activity, of state animals.

Feds take care of their responsibilities like camping, recreation, access, off road travel, water, leasing, use fees.

Kent

The Feds actually only grant the state the power to regulate hunting and fishing on public lands because it's cheaper to do so, rather than have to hire their own force of game wardens and biologists to deal with all of it.

Each state has an MOU with the feds.

This particular trail is actually open to livestock and foot travel. I just call it a foot trail. Sorry you've never seen one, and think there are none in Montana, but that's not my problem. If you had, maybe we could have an intelligent conversation on the subject.

I don't care what Colorado does as long as it says in Colorado.

I'm glad you are able to do that. More power to you.

State animals, feds don't own the animals. It would be a legal fight of state constitutions.

Kent

You are probably right. Colorado and Montana are two different countries with a different cultures.

Kent, I understand, but they doo indeed have MOU's with each state.

That fight over state's rights was long ago. I think we need another.

Kent,

Exactly. Those whining about being NRs could move, or hunt elsewhere. Limited resources, in demand, and proper management of the game populations require restriction of access and tags.

Bullschit. There are a LOT of hunters who WALK into "Big Sky Country" every year to hunt. Hell, horses are permitted even in wilderness areas. Transportation is not "needed"; it's "wanted". Can't drive there? Fine; walk or ride a horse. You can still get there and no one has locked it off completely.

Hell, you (derby_dunce) don't even hunt. WTF are you whining about?

No. And I don't think I alluded to such........

So, what do you want?

To DD,

If you can't run with the big dogs and hunt the steep hills out west, go to Nebraska, quit whining, and leave us alone. I just saw a doctor yesterday for my knees, but I'll keep hunting, just slower every year.

For clarification purposes, this is coming from someone who never leaves the house.

Exactly. Federal land? Park at a parking location and WALK in. How fookin' hard is THAT?

More tags allocated to nonresidents at fairer prices on Federal lands.....

Under our present system wild life is State property and managed by the State with the Feds blessings. The Feds have given serious thought to charging an access fee to access federal property. So far the thought has gone nowhere at least in Montana.

Montana charges more for out-state hunters because the out-state hunters don't live in Montana and pay taxes such as income taxes. Montana has taken the attitude that if you want to pay lower hunting fess move to Montana, become a tax paying resident and pay less to hunt.

By Montana I'm referring to the state government.

There's the whole issue of supply and demand for a limited resource that needs to be managed quite closely.

You can b!tch all you want, but it's a state issue and as a non-resident, you don't have a say (and shouldn't) because the wildlife are managed at the state level, not the federal level. So, unless you want 1) federal management, or 2) to move to a certain state, you're ass out and should be.