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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Thanks for the response. Reason I asked was because someone who is well trusted here said to me (in private) that he believed that the quality (control) started to really slip somewhere around 2005 or 2006 so that's why I asked whether it was a QC issue or just that you are using them and expecting much more from them than Leupold knows about the bulk of their customers use of the product lines.


I seem to remember JB mentioning something similar awhile back, but I think it was before 2005. Something about not seeing as many variables fail. And I thought that it was about the same time that Leupo started outsourcing more parts from overseas but this might have been coincidence. Don't hold me to it though. Maybe JB will see this thread and chime in.

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My feelings as well. I started hunting when I was 17 and I'm 56 now. Leupold was the scope to have. I've owned a bunch of their variables (1.75-6 shorty, 2.5-8's, 3.5-10's, a 4.5-14, fixed power 4's, one 6x42 and a couple of their BR series) so I'm acquainted with them but by Campfire standards I'm probably less than average. The first time I really noticed their zero retention was lacking was my first trip to Sask for a whitetail hunt. My 300 WM was off by 4 inches (horizontally) at a 100 yrds. My 280 Ackley was off by about an inch, same direction. Not a comforting feeling, but in fairness, who knows what happened during the flights. After this started happening on a regular basis, I decided to start shopping and ended up with a couple of B&L 4000's in 2.5-10x40. I had 6 of them at one point in the 4000/4200 guise and my only complaint would be their ER if mounted on a hard kicker. My 300 now wears a Leica ER 2.5-10x42 and the 4200 is wearing Leupold QR's so the Bushy is a back-up in case the Leica takes a dump.

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Formy, if that Leupold 6-18 dies, I'll replace it with something I like more, though I really don't know right now what that would be. With luck, it isn't a problem I'll have to worry about for a while.

A couple of months ago I sent off two Leupold scopes for reticle changes. That has been my only encounter with their customer service. Both scopes were older VariX III models. When I got the scopes and paperwork back, I noticed that both of them had had the erector guts 'refreshed'. I was surprised at first, but the more I thought about it, the guts were old and maybe tired.

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