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I am for COMPLETE legalization, by the way. So am I. Same.
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I find it ironic that the war on drugs is such a big [bleep] joke to some people, but the fact that they legalize dope, and spend the first 0.1 Billion dollars made off of it on programs to prevent folks from using it and treating some that are. Just because the government turns around and spends the $$ like they do doesn't make the war on drugs any less of a "big plucking joke" than it is. The government has spent over a trillion dollars of taxpayers money so far on the war on drugs, and it hasn't done a bit of good. Drugs and drug use are still rampant in our country. You simply can't stop people from using the stuff...plain and simple. However, Notwithstanding anything prior is a big [bleep] joke, doesn't mean anything current or forward isn't as big or bigger [bleep] joke. Just because other kids are doing it or "so and so" does it, doesn't give license for everyone to do stupid things as well. You seem to use that argument a lot, bro. Just because hypocrites are hypocrites, doesn't mean I can be a hypocrite...
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Campfire Ranger
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I can't believe anybody would thing that any "good" would come from legalization. It's not doing one bit of good, obviously, to keep it illegal though. It's just costing the taxpayers a ton of money and it's not stopping people from using the stuff.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Maybe, just maybe if we throw enough money at it and CARE, it will be a solved issue.......
I have a novel idea: you got bad pee you get nuttin'.
Why care for people who don't care about themselves? Tell them its okay, go and be free, but your behavior should be free to the taxpayer as well.
Nature gets rid of bad behavior on its own and its always been free.....
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It's not doing one bit of good, obviously, to keep it illegal though. It's just costing the taxpayers a ton of money and it's not stopping people from using the stuff. I dont' believe money is a credible issue here, other than for the alcohol producers that are lobbying to keep weed illegal. I would like to see it legalized for two reasons. First, the fact that it is a crime to possess, tends to place users in the presence of criminal elements. For that matter, it makes them "criminals". Being a criminal makes one believe that there is no reason to obey laws (beyond there own morals). A gateway to the dark side, so to speak. Second, I like brownies and get tired of my beer tasting like fish. 
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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I find it ironic that the war on drugs is such a big [bleep] joke to some people, but the fact that they legalize dope, and spend the first 0.1 Billion dollars made off of it on programs to prevent folks from using it and treating some that are. Just because the government turns around and spends the $$ like they do doesn't make the war on drugs any less of a "big plucking joke" than it is. The government has spent over a trillion dollars of taxpayers money so far on the war on drugs, and it hasn't done a bit of good. Drugs and drug use are still rampant in our country. You simply can't stop people from using the stuff...plain and simple. However, Notwithstanding anything prior is a big [bleep] joke, doesn't mean anything current or forward isn't as big or bigger [bleep] joke. True enough, but what are we to do...? It seems like the choices are either to continue to WASTE money on a dismal failure of a policy...or stop it, and spend the $$ that was saved on something else that is also a huge and abject WASTE. If those are the choices then why do anything at all...? Not just about the failed war on drugs but about any government expenditures/waste at all...? Why even discuss fiscal responsibility when it comes to government...?
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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I have a novel idea: you got bad pee you get nuttin'.
Why care for people who don't care about themselves? Tell them its okay, go and be free, but your behavior should be free to the taxpayer as well.
Nature gets rid of bad behavior on its own and its always been free..... I'm good with that.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I have a novel idea: you got bad pee you get nuttin'.
Why care for people who don't care about themselves? Tell them its okay, go and be free, but your behavior should be free to the taxpayer as well.
Nature gets rid of bad behavior on its own and its always been free..... I'm good with that. That would pretty much fix it all, now wouldn't it?
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Campfire Oracle
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Bob will be eating at that buffet...
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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I can't believe anybody would thing that any "good" would come from legalization. It's not doing one bit of good, obviously, to keep it illegal though. It's just costing the taxpayers a ton of money and it's not stopping people from using the stuff. How would legalizing Marijuana save the Tax Payers money? Remember "save" mans to not spend. Would the Government "Save" the taxpayer money by reducing Law Enforcement manpower costs? Administrative costs? Court costs? What? What expenses would be CUT and Who is going to loose their Jobs? Shifting money from one program to another is NOT saving money, it is spending money. The sift in money will most like take away from Law Enforcement and shift it to Social Programs to deal with the increased use of marijuana. What would you rather have this money spent on, Law Enforcement (All Law Enforcement) or a Social Welfare program? Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another. Yes.Yes.Yes.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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So..are you gonna bogart that thing?
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What would you rather have this money spent on, Law Enforcement (All Law Enforcement) or a Social Welfare program? Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another. Ideally, I'd like to see it spent on whatever the state governments are already doing with the property taxes of that particular state...and then decreasing the property taxes for the people of that state correspondingly.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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What would you rather have this money spent on, Law Enforcement (All Law Enforcement) or a Social Welfare program? Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another. Ideally, I'd like to see it spent on whatever the state governments are already doing with the property taxes of that particular state...and then decreasing the property taxes for the people of that state correspondingly. So you want it spent and not saved. I figured. Tell me again how spending money saves money? OH, and how many LEO should be laid off or terminated to NOT save any money?
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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What would you rather have this money spent on, Law Enforcement (All Law Enforcement) or a Social Welfare program? Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another. Ideally, I'd like to see it spent on whatever the state governments are already doing with the property taxes of that particular state...and then decreasing the property taxes for the people of that state correspondingly. So you want it spent and not saved. I figured. Tell me again how spending money saves money? OH, and how many LEO should be laid off or terminated to NOT save any money? lol YOU, Steve, already asserted that this money was going to be 'spent' one way or the other. I don't disagree with that. And then you asked me what I would rather have this money 'spent' on...and I answered your question regarding that. No LEO have to get laid off. They'll simply be freed up to focus on other, more serious, ctiminal activity.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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What would you rather have this money spent on, Law Enforcement (All Law Enforcement) or a Social Welfare program? Cuz there is one thing for sure, this Money you speak of is gunna get spent one way or another. Ideally, I'd like to see it spent on whatever the state governments are already doing with the property taxes of that particular state...and then decreasing the property taxes for the people of that state correspondingly. So you want it spent and not saved. I figured. Tell me again how spending money saves money? OH, and how many LEO should be laid off or terminated to NOT save any money? lol YOU, Steve, already asserted that this money was going to be 'spent' one way or the other. I don't disagree with that. And then you asked me what I would rather have this money 'spent' on...and I answered your question regarding that. No LEO have to get laid off. They'll simply be freed up to focus on other, more serious, ctiminal activity. So you agree that Legalizing marijuana will NOT save the Tax payer a single dime! Law Enforcement costs will remain the same. So all your other post about how expensive the war on drugs is and how CO saved 40 Million is all Bull [bleep], correct. You agree that NO Money will be "Saved" by legalizing pot, Good call.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Steve, just because the government turns around and spends the $$ like they do doesn't make the war on drugs any less of a "big plucking joke" than it is. The government has spent over a trillion dollars of taxpayers money so far on the war on drugs, and it hasn't done a bit of good. Drugs and drug use are still rampant in our country. You simply can't stop people from using the stuff...plain and simple.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Backtracking are we? You said that CO saved Money and Legalizing pot will continue to save money, now you say there will be NO money "saved". You simply can't stop people from using the stuff...plain and simple. That is one of the most ridiculous things you have said so far. We should legalize it because people will use it anyway. Should we also, Legalize Heroine, Legalize Meth, Legalize LSD, Legalize Ecstasy legalize Child Abuse Legalize Speeding Legalize Robbery Legalize everything, because people will use/do it anyway.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Yep, typical 'buzz' words, feel good stuff. We will 'save' money by legalizing.
Sounds familiar. 'If we save ONE child's live by banning guns it's worth it'
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