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I am a commercial user and I use a lot of Talley light weight rings on about everything other than heavy long range rigs and have never had a problem. I only torque the caps to 14 inch pounds and the base to the receiver to 18inch pounds. A light weight 300 Wby is one of the sharpest recoiling rigs around and they hold fine even with a 6.5-20x50 30mm scope.

Nothing will wreck and aluminum part quicker than over torqueing.

Speaking of torque, this screwdriver is it! Never seen any mention of it here but it is the way go.

http://www.kctoolco.com/wiha-adjustable-torquevario-10-50-in-lbs-p/28506.htm

You will need this quarter inch adapter.

http://www.kctoolco.com/wiha-bit-holder-adaptor-blade-for-1-4-bits-p/28581.htm

Yes , my numbers a bit higher I use but not much , and I do not tighten one than move to the others I progressively tighten like a lug pattern on a car/truck and never had a problem.

Anything mechanical can break. The marketplace is full of options which benefits the consumer.

Fat Wrenches are a joke until you buy one. Had a smith suggest that torquing action screws is like tuning a guitar. Makes sense to me.

I agree, Fat Wrenches are a joke. Thats when I landed on the Wiha.

What problems did you have with the FW?

16bore, my apologies, I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I missed the part where you said "until you buy one", inferring you liked them. My original intention was to agree with you. Even so, I went away from the fat wrenches because the scale is ballpark at best. Try to set it on 18lbs and you'll see what I mean. It is not precise enough for my taste. Is it better than nothing? Heck yeah! Much better.

FE maynot be as precise as some bit far better than 6 pack and bubba wrench

@ctsmith


Gotcha. Im always after a better mousetrap for sure. The scale is a tad wide on the FW. I'll admit, I never took tourque values seriously and snugged everything farmer tight. Not anymore. I was pretty shocked at how heavy handed I'd been in my stuff once I started messing with the thing. Had to eat a little crow too. Crow tastes better when groups are improved.

I do think that the difference in bases being 18# or 20# might be insignificant as long as they are all the same. But that's a guess.

Commercial USER here too and then some.(grin)

Now I've never seen a Safe Queen Fluff Rifle "break" a component or "wear" something out,so consider the facts of my actual trigger time and that of gents I run with "jaded",should it make the pill easier to swallow. Great time for Window Lickers to scroll on.

Hint.

I'm not gonna [bleep] LW's,despite my having broken multiple sets. I like the little bastards and simplicity has long been appreciated by me. Pards are of a like mindset and EVERY one of 'em that Shoots/Hunts more than a smidge,has broken at least one set too. Hint.

None of those failures were atop Boomers,as I know noone who fields one so configured. Hint.

It is IMPOSSIBLE For me to "forget" the bajillions of rounds expended and thousands of miles of transit,along with copious bumps/bruises associated with a decades long run of DD satisfactions,less a SINGLE failure of any type. Their sole lamentation,is that 30mm DD Signature rings went the way of the Dinosaur,which sucks heavy ass.

Mull them facts,as you please.

In objective overview,I reckon most of The Troops are gonna go Retro and re-rock DD's as a default...though there is some smitten with DNZ,but I cain't stomach the trite ring spacing.............




(a 'CUBIC Addendum)

Increased ring spacing/max spacing available on a tube,is the single greatest cookie you can toss a scope for both rugged/reliability and zero retention.

Have been around lotsa DNZ and they all suck heavy ass in that department,so are given a wide berth due that constant.

If/when they attain their first clue and nip same,I'll ride that train.

Perfection(and an extry 75MOA)...if only for conversation.




Perfection.



Perfection.



Extended front DD Cookie.



I hate rails,but sometimes you just gotta. Rifle on far right of frame,has inherent advantages going in,due that spacing.



No DNZ's for me.............

The spacing hasn't bitten me yet and I like the 1 piece setup but DNZ is making a Talley-like two piece mount that (I assume) can be reversed to play with spacing. I think they make them in both 1 and 2 screws per ring. I've not used them but it's nice to have options:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/30...mington-700-howa-1500-weatherby-vanguard

Big Boxer, do you prefer the Signatures (inserts)? Ever had any Signatures slip?

I'm thinking the 2 piece will give you the ability to reverse for wider berth... Don't swear them off yet. Guess I need to order some of the two piece DNZ's to find out.

Jay, I can't get past the cheesy "DNZ" stamp on the top half.

I'm not much of one to focus on looks but would be happy to do without the ring-top-tramp-stamp...

I'm trying to get there

Yes, aluminium castings in particular don't have much ductility, so overdo the torque and you are apt to get a fracture that looks just like the one pictured earlier in this thread.

When I purchase the Talleys I also purchased a torque screw driver. It was a real eye opener to realize how lightly I was tightening bases and rings.

What Ringman said IIRC they only call for 17 in/lbs where most others are 25. Got two sets no issues so far. ..