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Man gave me six boxes of factory ammo. Some are new and some are older. I just was wondering what the 110 gr. PTD were used for and how old they are.
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Don't know how old the ammo is,but the 110gr is for varmints.
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Man gave me six boxes of factory ammo. Some are new and some are older. I just was wondering what the 110 gr. PTD were used for and how old they are. Post pics of the boxes
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I kind of thought so, but not sure. I found a old 1962 book with them in it.
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What color are the boxes? Yellow and blue? White with blue and red lettering?
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I can't even find my photo bucket! It's just a yellow box with a big red W and Super-Speed printed in it.
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Late 50's / early 60's if I am not mistaken
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Thanks, I didn't know to shot em or save em. Just never saw any of them. HF101
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I tried 110 grs in my 308 win. They flew all over the paper at 100yds and the muzzle flash was just crazy. YMMV
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May be no need to try and pop a ground hog with em next year then. I'll just put em up.
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If they are in good condition why not try a few on paper. When I was a youngster and had but one centerfire rifle I used for everything I used to load 150 gr Sierra soft points for deer sized game and 110 gr hollow points to shoot sod rats with in my old 30-06.
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They are in good condition. I may scope up my Schultz & Larsen to see if it is as accurate as they say. I was just curious because all the other Win. ammo has Super X and these have Super Speed on the box. Thanks, HF101
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Super Spped was just older Winchester nomenclature.
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Short projectiles require SLOW twist rates!
Long projectiles require faster twist rates!
Most '06 barrel twist, other than Palma rifles, come with a twist rate of 1-10!
Translation:
Not worth a schitt for accuracy with short bullets!
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Winchester ammo box date codes etc. http://gigconceptsinc.com/files/Olin2.pdfThis perked my interest as I have several 60's era and before, a box of Silver tip 30 cal bullets, several loaded centerfire ammo, and some 22. MY guess would be centerfire boxes would be approximately the same as the 22 boxes pictured here. http://22box-id.com/Dunn/Winchester.pdf
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I've always found that a .30-06 which is typically 1-10 twist won't shoot anything under 130 grains too well. The 110's will work for predators inside of 100 yards, but don't expect anything smaller than about 6 inch groups. I used to call in Yotes to about 75 yards and zap them with a 110 and often the bullet wouldn't exit, which was good because back then I was selling the pelts.
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Short projectiles require SLOW twist rates!
Long projectiles require faster twist rates!
Most '06 barrel twist, other than Palma rifles, come with a twist rate of 1-10!
Translation:
Not worth a schitt for accuracy with short bullets! Yeah thats what l figured but tried em for the heck of it. Had a Husqvarna once that would put 165 gr or 180g bullets into raggedy holes but drop to 150 gr and barely under 2" was it for all but IMR-4064 it would go 1.5".
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So what bullets won't shoot worth a chit from my 6.5 twist 223 with 20 inch barrel?
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