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fwiw, The UPSIDE to this is that you can contact either Melvin Forbes OR Dave Talley. I've met and dealt with both through the years. It would be awfully difficult to say who is the greater Gentleman. Both are a PLEASURE to deal with and talk to... To say nothing of carrying product support to a pseudo religion. Great ambassadors of the shooting sports...imho
Regards, Matt. I'll second that. Talley took care of me one time when I had an application problem. Melvin answers his phone when you call......or used to. And they'll both take care of their customers.
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You buy cheap you get cheap. What do you expect for $40? Proven, albeit heavier, alternatives:
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Kill it with Millett
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Kill it with Millett
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You buy cheap you get cheap. What do you expect for $40? Proven, albeit heavier, alternatives: Not a fan of Leupold PRS, but I've used them. Warne I've used, too....but no longer a fan. The DD mounts/rings I like.
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Wreck it with Weaver!
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For a bombproof non-QR system it's hard to go wrong with leupold dual dovetails.
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I don't see the fascination with Talley rings. I bought a set after reading about them on this forum and I was extremely disappointed. I highly doubt I'll ever buy them again. I'd rather have scope rings such as the Burris rings that are a few ounces heavier(probably won't even notice once on the gun.) And have a ring that is 10x the quality
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For a bombproof non-QR system it's hard to go wrong with leupold dual dovetails. Not so...I had a set on a XP-100 in 35 Remington that the dovetail sheared off. Nothing is 100% fail proof
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Kill it with Millett I'm assuming Steely is being a bit sarcastic here, but I have actually had very good luck with the Angle-Loc rings. I have them on a couple of slug guns and they have held up fine. Conversely, I have witnessed the Millett turn-in rings fail miserably. I have always been under the impression that Talley Lightweights were a high grade mounting system. They have always worked well for me. Hopefully, this failure is just a one off event.
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Millet Angle Locks are the only ring I have every had absolutely fail. Junk, at best.
Anymore, my go to is a Weaver or Picatinny base and Burris Zee rings. I have had, and like, Talley LWs in the past, and they worked find. I just like the weaver/Pic setup better.
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Millet Angle Locks are the only ring I have every had absolutely fail. Junk, at best.
Anymore, my go to is a Weaver or Picatinny base and Burris Zee rings. I have had, and like, Talley LWs in the past, and they worked find. I just like the weaver/Pic setup better. Perhaps the reason I have not had a problem with Angle-Locs is that mine are all 20-25 years old. I would not buy them today.
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Very possibly, but I think the entire design is faulty. There simply isnt a large enough bearing surface gripping the rail to make me confident. Even before the set I had actually failed, I was in a constant fight to keep them anchored. When I finally got them tight enough to stay zeroed, I had torqued the ever loving piss out of them.
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I'm surprised all of mine aren't cracked. Finally bought a torque wrench and was a little shocked at how much I over did it.
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For a bombproof non-QR system it's hard to go wrong with leupold dual dovetails. Not so...I had a set on a XP-100 in 35 Remington that the dovetail sheared off. Nothing is 100% fail proof Yep. I had some on a 25/06. Groups went to hell. Fuggers cracked....
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I saw a top cap on a set of Talley LW break on one of Karnis' rifles a few years ago. It looked like a bad casting with porosity. Talley are great folks to work with. I had a set come with two rear mounts in the package. They fixed me up quick.
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No expert on this stuff, but wouldn't these tend to clamp squarely upon themselves, moreso than the dovetail? The Warne designed rings, both the Maximas and the Leupolds, are superior in detail. It's likely some have broken too, and like Talley, they'll stand by their product. I'd like to see a Talley LW style ringmount made from steel.
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Talley(steel) fixed rings and bases. Much better looking and virtually bomb proof.
Problem solved,
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Millet Angle Locks are the only ring I have every had absolutely fail. Junk, at best.
Anymore, my go to is a Weaver or Picatinny base and Burris Zee rings. I have had, and like, Talley LWs in the past, and they worked find. I just like the weaver/Pic setup better. Finally, somebody got it right.......... When I bought my M700 SS Mtn rifle in 1993, I put the Uncle Mike's of Oregon labeled Talley's on it (had not heard of Talley's yet). Two weeks prior to elk season, one of the top caps of the Talley's broke across the screw hole. I didn't use a torque screwdriver, but knowing they were aluminum I was very careful not to stretch the threads too much. Weaver bases and Burris Zee rings have been the lightest, reliable setup I've found so far. Casey
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