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Let's abdicate the stupid treaty and put troops on the border. Team them up with border patrol agents. While I agree with the sentiment, I don't like the idea of using soldiers for law enforcement jobs. Like in Fergusson, that's asking for trouble and that Governor will be lucky to get out of this with his azz intact. Soldiers are not trained for law enforcement, and I don't want to lose our combat effectiveness because we don't have the will to let cops be cops. We need to back the Border Patrol, let them arrest and deport...you know, their freakin job description. If we need more, then let's hire more for crying out loud. Agree.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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The whole immigration reform shootin' match is based on the assumption that immigration NEEDS reform. This is a lie. The only reason it would need reform, is if you want everybody that wants to come here, be able to come here. Everybody. The immigration laws are crafted to prevent that, and favor the best interest of our country, instead of the immigrant.
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What??? Enforce the laws on the books? What a strange thought.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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Can't have that! No way! Don't even think it.
For the record, the only part of immigration that's broke is the border and the illegals that we're allowing to stay here.
My maternal grandparents were immigrants.
Stupidity is expensive
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
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Sans fence, how do you insure a secure border? Armed drones.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Lettuce wouldn't be 10 dollars a head You either don't do the grocery shopping or don't buy lettuce. 
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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What??? Enforce the laws on the books? What a strange thought. That's racist
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 You are probably right in the government's eyes.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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I know this Mexican woman that recently spent a hell of a lot
of time, effort and yep, some money to become a legal citizen.
No telling how many jobs she has - to make a living in Leakey
Tx. obama might as well slap her face and tell her TGFed.
Amnesty is a slap in the face to all that attained citizen-
ship by legal means. Don't be counting on these Mexicans
voting Democrat.
--- CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE --- A Magic Time To Be An Illegal In America---
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Lettuce wouldn't be 10 dollars a head You either don't do the grocery shopping or don't buy lettuce. Kevin insinuated that without illegal workers lettuce(as an example) would be 10 bucks a head. I counter argued that we don't need migrant workers, we need to do make welfare rats do those jobs if they wanna keep their benefits
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Congratulations you have discovered what the Second Amendment is all about.Or at least what the founders intended it to be. I wonder if we have the gonads to use it if necessary.
There are no problems that cannot be resolved by the suitable application of high explosive.
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Did you actually read the link? It laid out Bush vs Obama point by point? You can read, right? And I addressed that in a later post. There is a difference between the two. If you don't recognize that, your not really worth debating with any amount of civility.
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An Executive Order within the scope of the duties of president is one thing.
An Executive Order that intentionally bypasses the Constitution, Congress, or the Rule of Law already in effect is quite different.
If someone doesn't know the difference, then they probably did vote for Obama.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Seems the king/zero wants the border guarded the same way........ the secret service has been guarding the white house.
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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Sounds as if an Iowan may have intended to solve the problem with a thuty thuty.
The Tail Goes Along With The Hide.
We should have picked our own cotton.
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Lettuce wouldn't be 10 dollars a head You either don't do the grocery shopping or don't buy lettuce. The true cost of a head of Lettuce would make your head spin.
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We need a guest worker program, a realistic one so a head of lettuce doesn't cost $10. No, we need able bodied Americans picking lettuce instead of being on welfare. It's completely unreasonable and logistically/financially impossible to deport 20 million illegal aliens; Why? There are much better ways to secure the border� Agreed, but most folks don't have the stomach for it. There needs to be a path to citizenship, There already is. It could stand to be expanded, but the right idea is there. SECURE OUR FREAKING BORDER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
Let the border patrol do the their freaking jobs, and back them like we back out troops. Agree and agree. Illegal immigrants who commit felonies need to be immediately deported; every damn one of them! Fixed it. At a very minimum, we need to suspend welfare and medicaid to illegal immigrants for 2-3 years while we create a migrant worker program with employer sponsorship. Personally I'd like to see it completely stopped, but I'd settle for a temporary suspension while we work chit out. Fixed this one too. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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The whole immigration reform shootin' match is based on the assumption that immigration NEEDS reform. This is a lie. The only reason it would need reform, is if you want everybody that wants to come here, be able to come here. Everybody. The immigration laws are crafted to prevent that, and favor the best interest of our country, instead of the immigrant. Not to nitpick , but by some counts there are 20 million people here illegally. I'd suggest the immigration system is pretty well broken.
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]If we keep all the way it is and just add a fence, it will be a HUGE expenditure of dollars for next to no return. I�d be willing to talk fences after we fix a whole lot else. We first need to allow our border patrol to do their jobs to the best of their abilities. And quite honestly, until we have the political resolve to do that, I�m not willing to talk billions for a fence that will be useless.
If the border patrol is set loose, I�d be up for a discussion of a fence. But any fence absent manpower to watch that fence line is just throwing more good money after bad.
Again, the need for personnel is a given. But you stated a fence is a dip schit idea and that makes it pretty obvious you haven't spoken to a lot of illegal aliens. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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We need a guest worker program, a realistic one so a head of lettuce doesn't cost $10. No, we need able bodied Americans picking lettuce instead of being on welfare. Yep. The migrant worker myth is one of the commie lover's mainstays. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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