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http://www.knightrifles.comI'm in the market for a new muzzleloader, and I don't like plastic TC stuff. I can't stand break open's either. I really like my old disc extreme, it's just getting some age on it. Anybody bought one of Knights new rifles since they got back in the game?
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Bought a ultralite last year, combined with No Excuses bullets and Tripple 7 powder it very accurate. Without scope I can keep a two inch group @100 yards. Very well built, B&C stock, adjustable trigger, easy to clean. Only complaint I had was the rear sight mounted on the barrel, short radius. Replaced with a NECG peep that mounts on the rear bridge of the action.
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I also bought an Ultra-Lite, and it's a really nice rifle. My sons have whacked 3 deer so far with it, including a real whopper, with 300gr. Hornady XTPs (not the Mag version) in Harvester Crush-Rib sabots over 80gr. by volume of BH209 and standard Winchester .209s. Plenty of power for deer in the woods without a lot of recoil. Get the Western model if you need or want iron sights. Sportsmans Guide has a good price and lets you pay in 4 payments. It may, however, take you a while to get it as they are built to order and ship directly from Knight.
The less expensive Knights probably shoot just as well, but are heavier.
If you get one and scope it, buy the Talleys, not the Knight mounts.
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Really impressed with my Ultra-Lite, would highly recommend.
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I handled a youth model this week that I would have bought had I got there a bit sooner. It was marked for close out at Academy and priced at $125. A friend of mine who works the gun counter saw the markdown and bought it. I know a young lady in need of a compact muzzleloader- oh well. The Knights are great shooters and with 209 ignition they are really reliable and much easier to clean up than my old Wolverine.
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Yeah I've got an older wolverine and a disc extreme. I love them both. To me, there is no comparison between the quality of a knight and the other couple brands that seem to get all the attention. I think I'll buy one just to support the company.
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The new Knights are still a quality rifle.
I'm a big fan and will hunt with a Knight Disc Extreme here in a couple of weeks.
You could always look around for new old stock if you're not comfortable with the new models.
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No, I think I am. From what I can tell, it's the same design with just a little bit of change to the breech area maybe? Really just wanted to make sure the quality was still there.
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Tagged. Also interested in a new in-line.
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I have about 5 or 6 Knight muzzle-loaders, mostly older stock Elites and Extremes, one newer Mountaineer. It's the only brand I'd hunt with, sold my last non-Knight a few years ago.
I've been hunting with a 45 cal Elite the last few years. One thing that's nice with the older Elites and Extremes is just about all the breech plugs, and bolt components are interchangeable. The new ones are still excellent quality, the best triggers too.
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Bought a Ultra Light Off Here About Month Ago. It Has Became My Favorite M.L..Nice Trigger,With Good Stock, And Flat Out Shoots. Mine With 80Grs Of 209 Blackhorn And 250Grs Barnes will Cut Holes At 100Yds.
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Bought a Ultra Light Off Here About Month Ago. It Has Became My Favorite M.L..Nice Trigger,With Good Stock, And Flat Out Shoots. Mine With 80Grs Of 209 Blackhorn And 250Grs Barnes will Cut Holes At 100Yds. Let me know if you want to sell or trade it...
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Only complaint I've heard with the new Knights is the breech plug needs to be replaces about ever 250 shots or so...
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I have 2 Knights and won't use any other brand. I just tuned a Knight trigger down to about 20 ozs. for a fiend. Have another new Knight trigger here to play with.
If I ever buy another ML, it will be an Ultra Light....
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Anyone know the brand and twist rate on the barrel?
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dont like break actions? why the heck not? Beats 5" of extra length and weight for something that just holds a bolt that doesnt even move backward.
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Don't know where you get your figures, the Knight is 2.75" longer and 3/4 pound lighter than a comparable CVA Optima.
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Optima has a 26" barrel vs knights 24" barrel on the UL.
Now if you want to talk light, Traditions pursuit ultraght at 5.15lbs.
My hawken weighs close to 9 but hey, its got a purdy long 32" barrel on it but shes oh so sweet and will handle heavier loads a lot better than today's light weight muzzleloader that just gives the shooter a nice flinch.
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Optima has a 26" barrel vs knights 24" barrel on the UL. Yes that was taken into account. Do the math. Knight UL 41.75" OAL with a 24" BBL & 6 lbs. optima 41" OAL with a 26" BBL & 6.65lbs.
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pursuit UL is still lighter than either rifle you are comparing though.
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