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I think there was a 7mm08 vs. 308 thread a while back. Might want to "look" it up to view the posts...
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The 7mm/08 does with a 130/140gn bullet what a 308 does with a 150gn bullet.
I've chronographed hundreds of loads in both cartridges, and to me, the 308 is superior.
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Where is Boxer/Big Stick?!?!!?!?
I wouldn't shoot either. 7x57 is where its at (or where it was.....)
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Peas in a pod, I like the .285X51, should be about perfect.
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I cannot imagine the 7-08 would recoil much less than the 308 win, was wondering if there was enough difference in the two to justify a 7-08 over the 308 in a Kimber Montana. I reload so bullets of even 110 grains are available in 30 cal. I've run 3 or 4 Kimber MT 308's and currently have a 7-08 Kimber MT. They kick the same with equal bullet weights. I use "standard" (non-monolithic) bullets in all my rifles, and all of them are loaded to tackle elk... for elk I like an SD of at least 0.248, so I run 165's in the 308 MT and 140's+ in the 7-08. With any powder, the 140's and 150's in the 7-08 kick noticeably less than the 165's in the 308. But 160's in the 7-08 MT get your attention like the 165's do in the 308. Etc., etc. For me, 150's don't bother me in the 308 MT, but 165's are starchy. I'd certainly not hesitate to run lighter 125-130 grain bullets in the 308 for deer and you'll find them more enjoyable than heavier bullets. A far as their effectiveness on elk sized game, the 7-08 and 308 are two peas in a pod when running similar bullets. This year I used 150 NBT's in the 7-08 and had great performance on a mature bull. Definitely similar performance to a 168 NBT from the 308. Aside, 308 brass and loaded ammo are substantially easier to find in this part of the world than 7-08. Not that that should be any surprise. Best, Brad
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That's Gold! These two chamberings are so similar, but people would have you believe they're poles apart! What a wank.
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Have you looked at the 22-250/7-08 Flave? I hear you can save a lot of money on ammo.
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Brad,
What brought you back to the 7-08 Kimber MT configuration? Congratulations on the Bull Elk.
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I put a 7/08 Montana on 7 day "hold" the other day (while I make up my mind Coulda bought any number of 308's but to me the 7/08 kinda defines the Montana.I like the 7/08 mo betta.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The 29-08 must be the "Little boy" of the B-29 The Montucky would best be served in a 6.5x47 or 6XC 7-08 is excessive - Creedmoor is a decent compromise All because of no 270 Redding
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65: Love those 7mm boolits. Besides, i have a pile!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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But but the 29-08 kills like an Atom bomb - better than the Hammer of Thor! Yeah I had many 7-08s, tripped them all inc brass dies n bullets For 6.5s - Mo better . Bobin you finally conceding the 28-08 is better than a JOC? Who knows I may come back for another pass! A 6.5 BR Montucky would be Uber! Bigger than Big sticks 6!
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From the 120 TSX to the 140 Partition to the 162 Amax----The 7-08 is superb.....
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As is a Modest 6.5 w higher BC TTSX and a lethal less recoiling 125 PT or 140 Amax
All mental M..... As they say
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2much: I agree...been a fan for years and more so now as I am an olde woose and dislike recoil.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yes. I could like a Montucky in 260 Rem just fine.
I just have a lot more history with 7mm-08. It has served me well for a long time. Mostly with the 3 bullets I listed above.....
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Recoil still doesn't bother me much. Never has. Gotta be a real big boomer before I complain much. I hate muzzle brakes more than I hate recoil. I recently shot 40-50 rounds of 300 RUM off the hood of a truck just wearing a T-shirt. It didn't bother me a bit. Rifle was a 700 BDL with a Monarch on it. Maybe one day I will become more recoil sensitive. I think I may finally be starting to hate extreme cold a bit more, but still hunt in it anyway
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I'm thinking I may blow a coyote in half with some 444 Marlin handloads this winter. One load blew a 30lb beaver completely out of the water
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7x57 is where its at (or where it was.....)
Why so little love for the 7X57? A true classic.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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..... Bobin you finally conceding the 28-08 is better than a JOC?
65: No.... Paper ballistics aside, the 270 is necromancy, lucky charms....I carry it, I see BIG DEER,even if i don't sometimes get them,like last week. I am somewhat superstitious. My half dozen or so lifetime bucks have all fallen to the 270. But the very light carry weight and SS construction of the Montana is almost irresistible,especially here in New England where the rifle is in your hands, all day, every day.....or should be. Gun nut rationalization.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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