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Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9381756 12/01/14
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle
Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121	I'd like to find a 35WCF next. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

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Re: Model 1895 40-72 Steelhead #9381765 12/01/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,566 Likes: 1 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,566 Likes: 1 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by Steelhead I'd like to find a 35WCF next. My first desire was a 405, but after looking at the recoil, I decided for something less. The 35 was a consideration, but after looking at guns, calibers and configurations, I took this 40-72. I don't see me having more than one 1895, but I could be wrong...

Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9381835 12/01/14
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker
boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by tmitch Originally Posted by boltman Tmitch - I am confused as .30 U.S. does refer to .30/40 Krag. You did have it right? Every time I think I know something about Winchesters, there's a rifle that proves me wrong! I replied earlier to Clarkm that .30 U.S. is the .30-40 and .30 Gov't is the .30-03/06. Then you post your .30 U.S. Mod 1903 and I'm off base, again! I guess you can't count on anything being standard with old Winchesters. That's a beautiful carbine you have there! I notice the two dots on the elevation scale of the Lyman. I read somewhere that's an indication of it being a factory installed option. Did you letter it? In my recollection of my experience, the M1895 in .30/40 Krag are marked .30 US or .30 US Army and the .30/03's and .30/06's have "Govt" in the cartridge marking. I'm just going on memory as I have no reference materials at hand (in others words, I'm working without a net today) As far as having that carbine lettered, it's way too late production.

Re: Model 1895 40-72 Steelhead #9381898 12/01/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,619 Likes: 4 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana
kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,619 Likes: 4 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	Originally Posted by Steelhead I'd like to find a 35WCF next. Steely, That would be my choice too! Or .303 British. Has a real nice one pass thru the shop in .303 about 10 years ago! But that 35 just sings to me! Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Model 1895 40-72 kaywoodie #9381931 12/01/14
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960 T tmitch Campfire Tracker
tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960	Originally Posted by boltman In my recollection of my experience, the M1895 in .30/40 Krag are marked .30 US or .30 US Army and the .30/03's and .30/06's have "Govt" in the cartridge marking. That was my thoughts too, but your '95 .30/03 rifle is marked ".30 US MOD 1903.", not "Govt". Winchester labeled their ammo a bit different too. That bottom box kaywoodie posted is ".30-220 Caliber". That's alot of powder behind a .30 bullet! Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

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Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9381952 12/01/14
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker
boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by tmitch Originally Posted by boltman In my recollection of my experience, the M1895 in .30/40 Krag are marked .30 US or .30 US Army and the .30/03's and .30/06's have "Govt" in the cartridge marking. That was my thoughts too, but your '95 .30/03 rifle is marked ".30 US MOD 1903.", not "Govt". Winchester labeled their ammo a bit different too. That bottom box kaywoodie posted is ".30-220 Caliber". That's alot of powder behind a .30 bullet! You are of course correct and I am... getting old. I guess all we can safely conclude is that the .30/40 and the .30/03 and .30/06's are not marked identically. And I agree, a .30 caliber loaded with 220 grains of powder - must be using a very light bullet?

Re: Model 1895 40-72 boltman #9381961 12/01/14
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Here's my .35 WCF and yes, other than being refined in England (claw mount scope and pad) it is original as ordered (not even a special order but a cataloged caliber). Last edited by boltman; 12/01/14. Reason: forgot picture

Re: Model 1895 40-72 shrapnel #9381965 12/01/14
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,906 west coast of Arizona D desertoakie Campfire Regular
desertoakie Campfire Regular D Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,906 west coast of Arizona	Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Steelhead I'd like to find a 35WCF next. My first desire was a 405, but after looking at the recoil, I decided for something less. The 35 was a consideration, but after looking at guns, calibers and configurations, I took this 40-72. I don't see me having more than one 1895, but I could be wrong... You "looked" at the 405 recoil? Or felt it? I shoot my .405 often, and can assure you that the recoil is not bad, and I'm not a sadist for recoil either! Also, I have a .35WCF 1895 and brass is tough to find for it, although it's easily formed from .30-40 brass. Ken

Re: Model 1895 40-72 desertoakie #9382033 12/01/14
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by desertoakie Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Steelhead I'd like to find a 35WCF next. My first desire was a 405, but after looking at the recoil, I decided for something less. The 35 was a consideration, but after looking at guns, calibers and configurations, I took this 40-72. I don't see me having more than one 1895, but I could be wrong... You "looked" at the 405 recoil? Or felt it? I shoot my .405 often, and can assure you that the recoil is not bad, and I'm not a sadist for recoil either! Also, I have a .35WCF 1895 and brass is tough to find for it, although it's easily formed from .30-40 brass. Can I assume your .405 is at least outfitted with a shotgun style butt? Also, I have heard of problems associated with forming .35WCF brass out of .30-40 - apparently you aren't encountering any?

Re: Model 1895 40-72 boltman #9382057 12/01/14
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Re: Model 1895 40-72 boltman #9382069 12/01/14
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,101 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter
Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,101 new hampshire	Both of my 405's shoot very well with little recoil,more of a shove.The regular one will shoot 3" groups at 100 yds with regular Hornady ammo,i dont shoot the deluxe one much.

Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9382082 12/01/14
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kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,619 Likes: 4 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	Originally Posted by tmitch Originally Posted by boltman In my recollection of my experience, the M1895 in .30/40 Krag are marked .30 US or .30 US Army and the .30/03's and .30/06's have "Govt" in the cartridge marking. That was my thoughts too, but your '95 .30/03 rifle is marked ".30 US MOD 1903.", not "Govt". Winchester labeled their ammo a bit different too. That bottom box kaywoodie posted is ".30-220 Caliber". That's alot of powder behind a .30 bullet! Yes it's simple 30/40 ammo. 220 is the bullet weight. Cases are marked .30 Army. Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Model 1895 40-72 kaywoodie #9382306 12/01/14
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tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960	Originally Posted by kaywoodie Yes it's simple 30/40 ammo. 220 is the bullet weight. Cases are marked .30 Army. Yes, I surmised as much, but it's interesting how things were done "back in the day". Today unfortunately, it's a lawsuit in the making. Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9382741 12/01/14
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tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960	Originally Posted by boltman Here's my .35 WCF That's a nice Ross, Boltman. I read somewhere only a few known in that caliber. Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

Re: Model 1895 40-72 tmitch #9382897 12/01/14
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by tmitch Originally Posted by boltman Here's my .35 WCF That's a nice Ross, Boltman. I read somewhere only a few known in that caliber. Thanks. If anyone here has another, or knows of another, I'd like to hear about it.

Re: Model 1895 40-72 boltman #9391090 12/04/14
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Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,101 new hampshire	Well my Brother stopped by!! he wanted to borrow my trailer. His Deluxe 1895 is in 30-06!! the 36" barrel in 40-72 is a standard rifle!!!!! still a rare bird hes supposed to bring it by so my wife can take pictures. I just cant keep track of everything any more!!!!

Re: Model 1895 40-72 Loggah #9392026 12/04/14
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960 T tmitch Campfire Tracker
tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960	You have too many guns to keep track of. You should give some to us for safe keeping. Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

Re: Model 1895 40-72 Loggah #9392058 12/04/14
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker
boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by Loggah Well my Brother stopped by!! he wanted to borrow my trailer. His Deluxe 1895 is in 30-06!! the 36" barrel in 40-72 is a standard rifle!!!!! still a rare bird hes supposed to bring it by so my wife can take pictures. I just cant keep track of everything any more!!!! I still can't wait to see it

Re: Model 1895 40-72 boltman #9392462 12/04/14
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kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,619 Likes: 4 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	Dog gone it. I wished this thread was never started. I have the appetite for another 95 now! Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Model 1895 40-72 kaywoodie #9392784 12/04/14
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960 T tmitch Campfire Tracker
tmitch Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,960	Just like a Lays 'tater chip.......betcha can't have just one! Charter Member Ancient order of the 1895 Winchester "It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn

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