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Plus 100 on the front end loader, I absolutely love mine. Did someone say hanging deer?? Just a couple of weeks ago, I used my front end loader to bring this buck into the shop and lift it to hang for skinning�..sure saves wear on the back!! Boy, I hope finally owning a tractor helps me get nice bucks, too. What's this about hanging Deer. That's just light duty work! Let's try a little bit heavier job.
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Now I have a question for you diesel tractor owners. This little machine is due for an oil change. I have the filter, but I'm curious about what to use for oil. The manual indicates that I should use 10W-30 for the temps in my area. I'd like to use a synthetic for better flow at low temps, but I'm having a little trouble finding a diesel rated oil in that viscosity. Mostly what I'm finding is Rotella 15W-45 in either dino or synthetic.
What are you owners of smaller diesel tractors using for engine oil? Last oil change I used Rotella T6 5w-40 synthetic for one of our loader tractors. (started everyday, stored outside, multiple engine heaters) Same tractor gets 15w-40 during the warmer months.
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Thanks Sam. Biggest problem I'm having now is finding oil in the viscosity I want.
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Bruin, one thing that may have been mentioned but I haven't seen it is to weld two chain hooks at each end of the loader on the top of it. You can't believe how handy they are. For one thing, if you need to secure a load within the loader such as a refrigerator or something, you just hook the end of a chain in one hook and run it around the object being transported and put the other end of the chain in the other hook and you have it.
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Get some of this, Oil And one of these, Click Here You may have to order the oil, now that yer a farmer what ya gonna grow? have fun with the tractor.
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I had to buy 10W30 diesel turbo oil from the local CaseIH dealer.
If you use a loader, best have chains for the rear tires.
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Hi Scot can I borrow your tractor??? The right answer is not no but H#ll NO. Have fun and be safe with your new toy. Clint
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Mickey, that's a good idea. I'll check into doing that. wabigoon, I do have rear chains for it. Clint, you can use it all you want as long you want....in my driveway. Paul, I've been looking into different types of heaters including magnetic block heaters, radiator hose heaters and oil pan heaters like you linked to. What's the best way to go? Maybe a combination of a couple different heaters?
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best? a REAL block heater..
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A block heater that goes into one of the freeze plug holes or directly into the block is best but the one I linked you to is a very good option and uses less energy than a true block heater and will transfer the heat better than a magnetic heater as it is siliconed directly to the oil pan. You might want to go to your local dealer and find out if the engine is equipped for a block heater as it may be and all you would have to do is remove a plug and install the heater. Say........you didn't get this tractor to farm Marigawanna and be medical care giver did ya?
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best? a REAL block heater.. You're talking immersion type, right?
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The JD factory heater, at least for their smaller series of tractors, heats the radiator fluid, about where it comes out of the block and back to the radiator.
It's a Yanmar engine so it is probably Yanmar's design.
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A block heater that goes into one of the freeze plug holes or directly into the block is best but the one I linked you to is a very good option and uses less energy than a true block heater and will transfer the heat better than a magnetic heater as it is siliconed directly to the oil pan. You might want to go to your local dealer and find out if the engine is equipped for a block heater as it may be and all you would have to do is remove a plug and install the heater. Say........you didn't get this tractor to farm Marigawanna and be medical care giver did ya? Hey now, don't you be getting any rumors going. Besides, if that's all I was doing I'd just need a quiet corner of the basement, a 20 amp circuit to run my lights and a bunch of TuffR with the reflective coating on one side. I learned more than I ever wanted to know about that deal from my sister's first husband. I've been doing some reading on tractorbynet.com and there is an optional immersion type block heater available for this rig. I need to do some looking on the engine and find out which freeze plug it replaces and see how difficult an install it would be.
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Thanks Sam. Biggest problem I'm having now is finding oil in the viscosity I want. Skip the 10W-30 and use this: http://www.shell.com/rotella/products/t6.htmlIt's full synthetic and the 5W rating will give you better flow at low temp than the 10W stuff. Plus, you can find it at a reasonable price at any wal-mart. I'm a big believer in shell rotella diesel oil, my diesel jeep liberty uses the T6 and the rest of my diesel stuff (tractor & 1999 dodge cummins) use the regular 15W-40. If you just have to have 10W-30 then use the T5 synthetic blend 10W-30, but you'd be better off with the T6 5W-40
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Here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/183-1349443-9389410?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=mobil+one+diesel+oil
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I'd get a block heater in that baby. The heating elements that replace freeze out plug are very good.
I like CAT block heaters that are external and pulls the coolant from one end of the block and puts back in the other. Heaters in the radiator hoses suck.
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We have 2 block plug heaters and a coolant pump type heater on the loaders. Use the pump unless it's really cold then we plug everything in.
And a tank full of #1 with some additive and the fancy synthetic engine oil. And the occasional shot of ether.
Nothing worse than dicking around for an hour or two in the morning trying to start a tractor.
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I know im late to this but, old tractor being better than new sometimes refers to the fact that a 1950-60's tractor with the same horsepower will be bigger and heavier along with more torque. If you have ever seen a john deere B two cylinder tractor in a tractor pull, it is unreal what one can pull with with only 12HP. Even though the new small tractors have four wheel drive in many instances a "B" would pull them around. YMMV based on conditions
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We have 2 block plug heaters and a coolant pump type heater on the loaders. Use the pump unless it's really cold then we plug everything in.
And a tank full of #1 with some additive and the fancy synthetic engine oil. And the occasional shot of ether.
Nothing worse than dicking around for an hour or two in the morning trying to start a tractor. Sam; Good morning to you my cyber friend, I hope this finds you and yours well and warm on this chilly morning. Although I'm by no stretch either a diesel expert or live where it's extremely cold anymore, I did grow up with them in Saskabush and since moving here to BC we've had at least two diesel powered machines/vehicles on the place for over two decades. I think it might be helpful if folks always remember two things with diesel engines, the first being that they need to be at full operating temperature to run correctly and efficiently. The second is open for a wee bit of debate I suppose, but I've always contended that most engine or motor wear takes place in the time between a dead cold start and full running temperature. As evidence I present all the diesel powered trucks that died premature deaths from folks using them in town to run for coffee or get the mail - which never brought them up to temperature and in many cases washed the cylinders. You'll appreciate this I think Sam - a good friend in the Yukon told me that on his old Cummins Dodge he had an electric blanket heater for each battery, an oil pan heater and the block heater. He told me once, "When I plug it in Dwayne the lights in Dawson City go dim...." Anyway Sam, not that you need it but I'm another former cold dweller and diesel engine enthusiast that whole heartedly agrees with your approach. Oh, lastly though to the OP or anyone else - if the engine in question is a pre-chamber injection like our old '90 Jetta 1.6 or our Mitsubishi powered tractor is, then DO NOT use ether as it can blow the side of the intake off. Food for thought for sure, eh Sam? Have a good weekend and do keep warm Sam. Dwayne
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Morning Dwayne, I should have mentioned only to use ether where 'applicable'. Don't use it on the pickups, etc.!
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