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Originally Posted by djs
Who is Stan Potts. I never even heard the name before.


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My first elk was standing against an aspen leaning on it at 3 in the afternoon. Wind blowing over me when as I was facing it when I heard some noise behind me. There was a nice 6x5 bull at about 50 yds.

I waited until he was 40 yds and then hit him with two 338 partitions.

The point I am about to make is this, I had the wind pushing my scent into him, scent of diesel, gas, propane, food, me, my taint (been 4 days) etc. Pushed right up his nose and he didn't care even about the cig I was smoking.

Since then I have been in the middle of herds of elk and deer, moving slow. Had deer come right around me up close and personal. Orange, blue, camo didn't matter. What does matter is movement, and one other thing that will get them into the next county - a long gun or a stick about the same length.



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This thread makes me rather glad that the odd one or two hunting shows that we do have here in Oz don't tend to go in for a lot of hype and bs - they wouldn't be taken seriously if they did. There's not much of a market for scent killers, scent enhancers, cough suppressors or all that other myriad of stuff either.

I suspect the second thing goes with the first.

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Stan Potts, Michael Waddel, Jackie Bushman, Bill Jordan and many other TV hunting show "Hosts" make me want to puke. Tiffany Big Boobs Lakosky on the other hand I wouldn't mind spending some time in a deer blind with, my mind would be on a couple of other things than deer hunting I'll admit.

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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
I know it's not constructive to speak negatively towards our own so let me make a positive comment.

Could he possibly improve his presentations if he used a cough silencer.........instead of.....

I find him astounding.



A PRIME reason I don't watch that crap on TV. Last time I looked, 99 or 110 percent of hunting shows just are advertising crap and crap shows. Period.


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Originally Posted by JPro
Oh, I gargle with the stuff too. (grin)

I generally find it is more important when hunting up close or when the wind is bad. The boot spraying thing does work, as does not wearing your hunting boots in parking lots and other places where they may pick up motor oil or gasoline.


I used to play with all that stuff, and I still adhere if close range hunting, that everything you do can't HURT. It might not help though.

I will say this, I used to wash my rubber boots. They would stay in a bag with cedar limbs and such in it all year, in a closed plastic bag. Then wash em with baking soda and put same in the boots.
Spray them when leaving the house.

You can bet your azz that if the lab got out of the fence he was sitting with me some half a mile away in a few minutes.. wife said didn't matter what route I'd take or try to fool him if he would get out...

I suspect deers noses are about as good as a dog....the certainly are larger.


Some folks claim to be able to do ANYTHING with wind pushing to animals and have no reaction, I've seen the same too. I can't say I've ever seen it ok with an OLD animal though, thats wise by years.

But like the little 6x5 bull elk mentioned, younger animals, sometimes just don't care.

Where I hunt at home, the animals are mostly used to noise and scent, just to many folks out in the country now where there used to be none. I'm madder about that than the deer are evidently.

But let em get a whiff of you at our deer lease where they don't smell folks to speak of, especially in the woods off the roads and such on the place, they smell us Oct/Jan and thats it.... they will bust you by scent.

Yet if you can close up a tight blind, if they get just a small whif, its not so bad. I'm assuming because they think you are far away...


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Originally Posted by dan_oz
This thread makes me rather glad that the odd one or two hunting shows that we do have here in Oz don't tend to go in for a lot of hype and bs - they wouldn't be taken seriously if they did. There's not much of a market for scent killers, scent enhancers, cough suppressors or all that other myriad of stuff either.

I suspect the second thing goes with the first.
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It's hard to explain the true Aussie culture over here as it is so similar in some ways and light years away in others.

When an Aussie calls it like it is here, it draws mostly positive comment from Americans who really do think the same way but the culture is much more PC in the US so people are more reserved in their outward commentary.

Aussies call a spade a shovel and are likely to become aggressive if anyone tried to restrict their ingrained freedom of speech. It is not negotiable and a politician is less than a citizen over there, so has no influence and commands no respect from the public generally.

Regarding the outdoor shows, what is here on tv, is terrific in principal but largely removed from the reality of the common man and his resources to hunt.

Most people have no opportunity to put more than a representative whitetail mount on the wall and people who live in better areas of hunting opportunity usually learned the hard way or from relatives prior to the tv generation.

Have you noticed how many 20 and 30 something experts there are? Must be the only industry in the world that has such expertise at such a young age considering the limited hunt days and kills they have accrued.

Remember when your grand father hunted in blue jeans, an old coat, whatever boots he owned which was perhaps his only pair anyway and he got it done.

I've said it before but I'd hunt in a dinner suit rather than not hunt, but I don't think too many of our experts would consider the same folly but then again, they really are pseudo salesmen for their sponsors and not hunting reporters of any imagination or resource.

2 positive thoughts to finish on.

1. I recall a program back in the very early days of hunting tv whereby there was a hunter dressed in blue jeans and a flannel shirt hunting elk.

He mostly hunted the fringes of dark timer and used a model 70 in .270 Ingwe Magnum but what stood out was a length of dental floss hanging from the barrel just ahead of the stock. He used this to watch the wind and adjusted his stalk accordingly. He was successful.

2. The second was a very early Zumbo video back when his hair was black and he stalked an elk by tracking it in snow and covered what was presented as white some miles and as he got within shooting range of the elk foraging through the snow depths, he turned to the camera and said that would make a great shot if he had a tag.

The whole point of the show was to teach you how to stalk in snow and for that, I think he did a great job. The end let you down a little but the main point was made. Information.

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John the MAIN point in American hunting shows now is not to provide information but to sell product. Most are nothing less than whorish.


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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Look on the bright side - the industry stimulated by "Pott's-style programming" has brought us the...Cough Silencer, the Ground Grunter, Donkey Butter, the Cornhole(r) (no, seriously!), a virtual ungulate buffet of baits, attractants, deer foods, crops, new bows, crossbows, and probably a lot of stuff I don't know about.

And how many "ways to leave your lover," by Paul Simon - that many kinds of camo including camo underwear and TP.

A black and green checked shirt and a recurve - what did Fred Bear know?



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He forgot the Butt-out tool....


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That Butt-out tool gives me the creeps! crazy shocked cry


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Originally Posted by ingwe
He forgot the Butt-out tool....


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They should use an extra large Butt-Out tool on the asshat that decided that playing friggin' piano and guitar music so loud that you can't hear a word anybody is saying, throughout the entire show, is a great thing.

Why do Ralph & Vicki (and others) shudder, shake and sigh like their having their first climax, every week, right after they've shot their 359th deer. Jeebus Christ, get a room.

Why in Gods name do you have to keep whispering so low that nobody can hear a fuggin' thing your saying AFTER you shoot the deer?

The producers of the outdoor shows must have the brains of a box of hammers.



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Once while hunting turkeys in the South, some of us stopped into a little sporting goods store. On one wall were a BUNCH of "cover scents," including Tink's Turkey Cover Scent.


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Did you buy it? I thought turkeys had sniffers like 8x binoculars.


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That is a classic.

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JPro,

I was tempted! It would have fit perfectly in the comedy corner of my office.


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Now that we know what almost qualifies for your Comedy Corner, I am curious.

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Originally Posted by VernAK
All these Alaskan Reality shows we are deluged with make Stan Potts look pretty good.

In fact Old Stan could be compared to John Wayne after you once watch Razor Dobbs.


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I think I've seen Potts a couple times, and he did not bother me too much. John Gillespie I've seen on a couple of shows, and quickly got on my nerves. Might be a heck of a nice guy in person, but loud as heck.

But Razor Dobbs...oh Razor and his frickin poodle. If I ever met him I'd be tempted to ask if he & his dog use the same shampoo... :crazy


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I'll have to make a list....


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