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Lefty Nice Buck. Did You grow up in the N.E.Kingdom?

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Taconic,

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We had a deer camp near Newport. We later moved to Richmond.
Hunted in Victory and later a lot it camels' Hump state forest.

Pretty rural back then...28 in my HS class.

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Yeah - A guy that married my aunt had a camp in Victory Swamp. Never got up there with him but was invited many times. He took some big deer up there. He was from Shaftsbury. My niece graduated from Johnsburg H. School 2002 ( North Creek N.Y.) 26 in the class. She is now a PHD. That year I think that Newcomb graduated 7. How the hell did you drag out?

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5 of us. 2 guys in the front of the sled, 1 behind. 1 guy ahead with the light scouting the best way & another helping as needed. Once we got it on a log road it went on a game cart. Not bad with the ground frozen, but a long pull almost 3 miles.

We pulled 5 deer out in 5 days all at night. With 5 guys it actually went well most of the time.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
Re post: problem with photo bucket:

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bdestafeno/library/2014%20idaho

Cursing Photo bucket right now. Click on link to see bucks. Will try to get it straightened out and post story.

Well this is the best I can do with photo bucket.

I shot the big whitetail in NW Idaho. Tracked him and jumped him out of his bed. First shot running away hit his hip and angled all the way to the front shoulder. Finisher through the chest. 165 accubond out of my .308 NULA. The 8 point was 185lbs and shot at 110 yards in the timber. Double lunged and DRT.
It took 5 of us most of a night to get him out of the woods. Pegged our Cabella scale at 350. F&G asked me to take him to a meat packer where he weighed in at 376. Aged at 9 1/2 years.

If anyone is well versed on Photo bucket I could use some help to get these pictures posted better.
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Idaho's known for mulies and elk and the whitetails aren't mentioned much. They're very much underrated. There are some beauties in parts of north Idaho.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck

Idaho's known for mulies and elk and the whitetails aren't mentioned much. They're very much underrated. There are some beauties in parts of north Idaho.




No, no there's not. Complete BS.
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Those are my 2 best whitetails on the right. One is a 8x9 that gross scores 172 and the other is a 7x10 that has a 157 inch frame with 23" of extras.

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bigswede: I have heard very good things.....for years.

One place I have not visited and should.

Those bucks are beauties!




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F&G asked me to take him to a meat packer where he weighed in at 376.


Um...
New thing called, THE PHONE.
post the name of the meat packer...sure they got one AND sure that if a deer a biscuit short of 400 pounds got wheeled into their locker...uh...they'd fkin remember it.


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Lefty, are we talking field dressed ?

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
bigswede: I have heard very good things.....for years.

One place I have not visited and should.

Those bucks are beauties!


Bob,
You'd be one of the few that hasn't made the trip. This area is no secret by a long shot. Come the second week of November the local motels are filled to the brim, there are huge camper and wall tent towns set up all over, and there are a constant line of pickups and 4-wheelers on every logging road for miles. Don't get me wrong, lots of good hunting yet, it just amazing how many people infiltrate the woods now. When I was a kid elk season was the same way, the wolves took care of that for us though.

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Hey Lefty, let's let these innernet experts figure out what this one weighed.
#7 P&Y in Oregon at the time I killed him. I couldn't drag it whole, so I halved it. No head, hide, or guts it weighed 107. Live weight, anybody?

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bigswede always good to get straight skinny on a spot. I used to find that, by the time I drew a tag and got to a new area,everyone was already there or just a year behind me! grin




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Hey Lefty, let's let these innernet experts figure out what this one weighed.
#7 P&Y in Oregon at the time I killed him. I couldn't drag it whole, so I halved it. No head, hide, or guts it weighed 107. Live weight, anybody?

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Fireball beautiful buck! Here's the formula I used for Huntsman's buck. This is meant for estimating:

"Hanging Weight" X 1.33 ='s Dressed Weight;

Dressed Weight X 1.26 ='s Live weight


I would assume "hanging weight" to be gutted, head/hide off/legs off at knees. We might also call this "hog dressed"?




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Hey Lefty, let's let these innernet experts figure out what this one weighed.
#7 P&Y in Oregon at the time I killed him. I couldn't drag it whole, so I halved it. No head, hide, or guts it weighed 107. Live weight, anybody?

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Fireball beautiful buck! Here's the formula I used for Huntsman's buck. This is meant for estimating:

"Hanging Weight" X 1.33 ='s Dressed Weight;

Dressed Weight X 1.26 ='s Live weight


I would assume "hanging weight" to be gutted, head/hide off/legs off at knees. We might also call this "hog dressed"?


I've never seem those number's used before. What would that make live weight? I have always added 60% to the hanging weight. That's skin off, head off and bottom of the legs off. Using that, the deer in question would be just over 170#. If I figured it right.

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So, less than 200 lbs. Wow, 375 lbs is 2 of these?


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Don that's about right...I got almost 180, which strikes me as light for a mule deer with a rack like that.

I got this formula from a meat packing/processing plant on line....obviously the numbers could be conservative. There's other formula's as well but they all seem to work about the same.Keep in mind we are "estimating" here.




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Originally Posted by Taconic11
Yeah - A guy that married my aunt had a camp in Victory Swamp. Never got up there with him but was invited many times. He took some big deer up there. He was from Shaftsbury. My niece graduated from Johnsburg H. School 2002 ( North Creek N.Y.) 26 in the class. She is now a PHD. That year I think that Newcomb graduated 7. How the hell did you drag out?




I've moose hunted Victory bog. One of my favorite places.

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First of all, Lefty congrats on that honker of a deer and sharing the story. You also have triggered an interesting conversation on actual and estimated weights.

I have a Pennsylvania Game Commission "Deer Weight Tape" that is marked in inches that is placed around the chest and that reading gives you estimated live weight, field dressed weight and weight of edible lean meat.

The largest chest measurement is 46" with a live weight of 286#, field dressed 244# and 126# of meat. Your deer is way off the charts. laugh

Once again, congrats.


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Very nice buck. Curious of his age? Was he regressing? Amazing he could get feed browse to grow that big in that area of N Idaho. I hunt up there too and becoming much more popular. As you mentioned the wolves up there destroyed some of the best elk hunting in the US.

Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy seeing huge bodied deer.

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Leftycarbon: Congratulations on the whopper buck!
Good for you.
I normally concentrate on Mule Deer Hunting but over the last 56 years of Deer Hunting have also killed many Blacktailed Deer and maybe a dozen Whitetails in various states.
This year I shot THE biggest bodied Whitetail I have ever taken - it was a 10 pointer and I estimated its live weight at 270 pounds and I estimated it to be 4 1/2 years old (maybe 5 1/2?).
He was a SW Montana "ranch Deer" having lived his whole life on cultivated crop fields (I am sure) and he was still "hog fat" at the beginning of the rut here.
I have Hunted that northern panhandle of Idaho before - one year I saw some of the rare Caribou that frequent that near the Canadian border area.
Thanks for sharing and many happy returns of the day.
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