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I like that giant Q-Tip looking one.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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The retainer is shaped like the old style bottle caps with a slot cut into it to compress the retainer into the magazine tube. My 870 express from around 1990 or so has a plastic plug type retainer that you push down and turn 90 degrees. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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There are two types, see owner's manual link above.
The plastic ones that engage a dimple in the mag tube are meant to be foolproof. Apparently people were having trouble with the springy type and I can understand that. But had a guy show up at 4-H trap looking for help with an 870 that had the plastic plug retainer. Before I could get there another guy decided to help and took off the mag cap and Ziiiiing! We did find the pieces and showed the guy how to install the retainer properly.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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I went into Bob's Gun Shop, downtown Norfolk after work and they sold me a retainer for less than $6, spring is on order from Numrich. I had this 870 for sale a few weeks ago but when I went to take photos of it, I had a sudden change of heart. It's kind of ugly but I couldn't let it go all of a sudden.
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Wingmasters will do that to a person.
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Just read Elmer's review of the Wingmaster in "Shotguns by Keith." Apparently the first ones came with a weighted plug to make the shotgun more muzzle heavy. Elmer hated it, and wasn't shy about saying so. He gave the 870 a great review other than that, though. I've never seen one of those original heavy plugs...either wood, plastic, or missing on the Wingmasters I've used. When missing, I just cut a piece of dowel to correct length when I needed a plug. Just our of curiosity, would like to see one of the heavy ones. Does anyone know when that weighted plug was discontinued?
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look up a few posts to Kaywoodie.... far left, that thing looks HEAVY!
I fabbed one yesterday out of 3/8 dowel and a hardwood furniture button, still waiting for the spring from Numrich.
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Local Walmarts used to have them. Then we are close to Stuttgart and duck country. miles
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I will...thanks, Kid0917. Man, that does look like a boat anchor.
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look up a few posts to Kaywoodie.... far left, that thing looks HEAVY!
I fabbed one yesterday out of 3/8 dowel and a hardwood furniture button, still waiting for the spring from Numrich. Solid steel stock! May be one of the earlier mentioned heavy plugs. I did take it out of an 870! But I doubt it was an early one as I would have bought it if it was. I still have that plug on my bench!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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update: I got the spring from Numrich, smaller diameter than what was in the gun, but pretty sure it is the right one.. installed with the dowel plug and retainer, it is good to go and will be used this weekend at a WMA in south Va.
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Careful, as I've said, using an older Wingmaster can spoil you ![smile smile](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) .
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LOL wtf is a plug and why the hell would you want it in there crapping out your mag spring? Happy Holidays you guys. Magnum Man
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