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Folks I'm going to buy a new trigger group for my AR build ( 20" Krieger Varmatch-223 Wylde -A2 butt. Krieger free floating hand guards ) . I called Geissele today and they suggested either the Hi- Speed NM model DMR or the SSA-E . I plan to punch paper , non competitively and a little fox/coyote & groundhog hunting .
Wondering if any users of the above have any light to shed here.
Thank youall in advance for your time and help . Semper Fi Soup
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I have two SSA-E's, and one SSA and love them. I have not tried either the Hi-speed NM or the DMR.
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I've also got an SSA-E and that thing is as smooth as silk. Won't have any other trigger on my AR's.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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If you want a "match" trigger, and the best AR trigger made, get an AR Gold. They make a non-adjustable and an adjustable version. For a defensive carbine, I'd rate the Geissele Super Dynamic Combat (I like the straight one) as tops. It has SOCOM creds, the select fire version does anyway.
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For target shooting the Hi-Speed NM is the way to go. The second stage is set at about 1 pound and is very slick.
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I have a high speed match rifle geissele in my ar. It has a 2# first stage and a 1# second stage. That is a bit lighter than the non adjustable aftermarket triggers out there including geissele's other models. That is about the ideal pull weight IMO for an all around rifle. you don't want the first stage any lighter because you want a distinct wall that is easy to feel. same with the 1# second stage. it needs to be around that so you can feel that wall. my trigger will go quite a bit lighter though.
if I was doing it all over again I would try a RRA VARMINT trigger, this is a different trigger than the national match which is what most guys have. The varmint is 3.5 # and honestly Its at clean as my geissele at least the one I played with was. they are only 89 bucks over at ar 15.com
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I've got a the hi-speed triggers in my space gun and service rifle and as far as I'm concerned, they are as good a trigger as I've ever used including my PALMA and LR XTC bolt guns. Not as impressed yet with the G2S model even though it was half the price of the hi-speed, but the jury is still out on it.
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I put an SSA-E in my Sig 400 Hunter. MAN, what an improvement; I love it!
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I have two SSA-E's and am more than pleased given my needs. My son just bought one on Christmas sale from one of the mail-order places for $135 IIRC. A bargain.
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Im very impressed with the high speed NM in my LR308. It is a very nice trigger.
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You won't find better AR trigger out there.
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SSA-E is simply awesome! A great improvement over the regular AR trigger and would be a great precision rifle trigger.
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Save a few dollars and get a Timney.
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Get what you pay for... RE a Timney
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Had a Timney still have a Geissele
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Of course I should add, Timney better than factory, and in the end, it can all depend on how picky you are.
Bill does great design work though and worth every penny and then some for what you get in return.
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First thing I do to a new AR is install an SSA-E
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I have two SSA-E's and am more than pleased given my needs. My son just bought one on Christmas sale from one of the mail-order places for $135 IIRC. A bargain. I'm going to bet the $135 one was the G2S model, not the SSA-E. I just bought two G2S from Primary arms for $135 each and the SSA-E were about $190. I've never seen them cheaper than that. I would have bought the SSA-E but they were out of stock.
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I have two Geisseles, they are very good triggers.
Only caution I would place on them is that they have very strong springs and so if you are using thin SR (Fed/Win) primers or LP/SP primers, you might get some pierced primers.
I was having a problem with pierced primers working up loads with my .338 Spectre and finally figured out it was the trigger. Switched to a lower with a Chip McCormick trigger and the issue disappeared.
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Good to know.
I've never wanted to use thin primers... even in the late 80s thin primers and heavy springs didn't mix well...
Light springs give such a slower lock time that it bothers me. Probably doens't matter, but bothers me to be able to hear the difference.
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