Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics the reason FFP Sucks for hunting scopes

I agree with you there. I have one of these, and it does work brilliantly for short and medium ranges, daylight and dark. Hunting is all I use it for.

Mind you, I do have a mix of FFP (including fixed of course) and SFP scopes, so I have no particular dog in this fight. One advantage of the FFP variable that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned is the fact that it wont change POI with magnification changes, something inherent to the SFP design (though minimised in really good scopes).

My Swarovski z5 turns golden.

That just.means it's. Wire reticle not etched glass typically

As stated before, a FFP with good illumination system (flashdot for example) never loses the reticle no matter the power setting or light condition

Same here.

Great post, btw.

Right on RD. I guess I never knew what I was missing.

EHG: Well.....they aren't gone forever.

What you run into is a form of "target panic" aka a subtle form of buck fever brought about by a lack of preparation and too much to worry about when it comes time to kill.

All the technology is not always a benefit.

I see the same type come through here ever so often. They seem to underestimate this thing called "wind", or worse "swirling,gusting wind". Make's fools out 'em.

I'm a creeper.

Not to flame anyone, just an observation!

None taken RD.
Yes I am.
Just looking at the scope in the pic up top I'd say its a poor excuse for a FFP reticle.
Its to thin.
Most euro FFP reticles in hunting scopes have alot more coverage than that thing.SO its no surprise that when you turn the power down you cant see it.
Poor execution of a european idea by a chi-com company for an american consumer.
I will give them credit for trying.
Other thing I see here is why, when woods hunting, carrying a scope on lower power, would a person care if you could see all the ghost rings mil-dots and christmas trees when the shots you'll be taking in the woods would be what 75 100 150 yards?
On the FFP reticles I 've used from Zeiss and S&B.The reticles are heavy enough that at the lower powers i've never had a problem. And I have done quit a bit of the running and jumping stuff at close range in thick crap.


This.

This.
Flash Dots and illumination have a whole different level of
flexability.

I have always found that guys that came up on leupold variables have a problem with euro FFP reticles.In the beginning.Its an acquired taste.Some guys never acquire it.
Thats fine to.But for low light.And not shifting POA during power changes.
Its very difficult to beat a FFP reticle.

dave

This is awesome! A "dose of reality" is maybe what the guys who designed the scope were using when they did so. Heck, I'd bet one of these scopes in MT has been used to make more dead coyotes than the scopes the OP has in total.

I and I imagine everyone else realizes CC doesn't like FFP scopes. The rants occur often enough... I have 1 FFP scope I hunt with and it has worked for me. I plan on using it next year on pronghorns again and am considering switching some of my others to FFP as funds allow.

Form- Take it easy on him, he posted a pic of him with a coyote once...

[color:#FFFF33][/color]

Astute.......

Based on recent purchases - to me - this FFP reticle was made for playing sniper. SS MQ.



And this FFP was made for killing game. Meopta 4C Illum.

Thanks Jordan, I was hoping someone would come along w/some brains. These asshats that have never used one or don't know what they're talking about always spew chit out their azz. The reticle does in fact get larger and smaller as the power is increased and decreased. Anybody w/one brain cell would know if they ever looked through one and rotated the power ring. I can hunt brush w/mine on 3 power and a small, easy to see reticle or put it on 8 or 9 on a moonlit night and make a kill. Until you arm chair QB's buy and use one go play w/your erector sets you got for Christmas and leave the hunters alone. powdr

There's a lot of emotions displayed here.

Sorry Ringman, but I get tired...no exhausted when you come around and start posting, basically calling a guy a liar that has owned a certain scope for 20 years. I can see what cummins cowboy was thinking but he was thinking the opposite ...not me. I don't post about killing elk because I've never killed one but I do have a good idea about how I would go about it and w/what gun and bullet I would use. Both FFP and SFP scopes will work and I happen to like my S&B 3-12x42 w/#4 reticle. Like I said... I CAN MAKE THE RETICLE ANY SIZE I WANT! powdr

powdr's never killed an elk! Dude, you really ought do something about that! LOL

I've never killed an elk either.

But that's not due to the scope.




Travis

Power,
I have no idea what you are talking about.