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A sensible quote, "Nothing is foolproof for a sufficiently talented fool." To paraphrase, "Nothing is childproof for a sufficiently talented child." I state with confidence there are other 2 year olds out there with the talent required to fire a striker actuated pistol with no additional manual safety. I have to wonder if the child didn't see Mom practicing with the access window of the handbag and simply immulated. All in all a sad event. The take away, children cannot be left within reach of a firearm whether or not secured. Sad, sad, sad.

Good points, but don't kid yourself - that same talented child can defeat a manual safety too.

Guys - it may seem crass to discuss this, but one should never pass up a chance to learn or to teach from others' mistakes.

You are correct.

I'd like to move to a more basic lesson we can take from this event.


She's just gotten the purse. It was brand new to her. She wasn't really familiar with it, and all of it's idiosyncrasy's but decided to carry with it anyway. It takes time to become familiar with new equipment and it's limitations. Perhaps that's better done on the range then the local Walmart.... even if it's just a new holster or other carrying device...

In the spirit of 20/20 hindsight, it might have been instructive to give that (unarmed ) purse to the kid and watch him long enough to see how insecure it really is.

It was a new purse, Christmas shopping with her nieces she doesn't see everyday, lots of distractions, and some two year olds can defeat just about anything.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda, and no one was walking in her shoes yet feel free to defame a young mother intelligent enough to be a nuclear scientist.

That would be an interesting experiment. Put some candy in it, and let him see you do it, and start the timer. At that age I watched my kids move small tables and stack chairs on them to reach candy on a 8 foot high shelf. It's all too easy to under estimate the capabilities of small kids.

I have watched Raven's unzip day packs to get at the lunch inside.

If it's not on my hip it ain't loaded. The anti's are loving this schitt. Brutal. Horrible...

People under estimate the strength of babies and the intelligence of toddlers all the time.

Around here women leave their purses in the shopping carts and walk off all the time to go check out something on a shelve or rack.

I's like to think this accident is a wake up call to all women but I know it isn't.

Like many super smart people she lacked common sense.

Just because she had a momentary lapse of reason, doesn't mean she lacked common sense.

Everyone here has had a momentary lapse of reason. Anyone who claims other wise is a liar. This particular one was ill timed, unfortunate, and tragic. Hopefully we all have the humility to admit we are human and learn from it.

I didn't say anything about reason I said common sense.

So if a person makes one mistake they have no common sense?

AMEN!!! SO Very True!

With an increase of concealed carry will come tens of thousands of crimes that won't be committed and thousands of people who won't be victims.

On the other side of the coin there will be a small increase in negligent and accidental discharges, some of which will kill or maim.

Not knowing what happened, I won't point fingers. Anybody who has ever been around kids knows that you are constantly beset with distractions, and that kids continuously surprise people with what they can get into.

But I do know that pointing fingers is only helping the anti's. They already believe it's worthwhile to ban all guns in order to reduce gun deaths. At a minimum, pointing fingers and calling the victims names like idiot is just going to encourage the anti's to push for more regulations. "Hey, we need to ban CC when a parent has small kids with them!!"

So from me.. Prayers for the family.

It ain't any future guilt I'm so much worried about, how many of us clearly recall the specifics of what we did at age two much less feel guilt.

Right now a little two year-old tyke has suddenly and incomprehensibly lost his mommy, every toddler's worst nightmare, that is what worries me.

Birdwatcher

Absolutely agree. Used the handgun description only because that is what was involved. Our little ones are much more adept at problem solving than often given credit for. And they watch us intently. I realize that more and more as I hear the speech and view the actions of my now young adult children. I just pray the knowledge of this tragedy will prevent others.

Not necessarily but in her case a lack of common sense was her one and only fatal mistake.

Again, you are judging her entire life based upon one incident.

I would expect better from a skeptic such as yourself.