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I cant understand one sentence in this post, really....
Are you saying we wanted this because we voted for the current government?
We want the cake and someone else to pay for it,, what does that mean?
A government that creates high paying jobs, huh?
I dont think you have an understanding of the situation at all, are you the minister of enviroment?

Andrew, (rem338win)

I realize that, having read many of your often misspelled and factually ignorant "ad hominem" diatribes concerning issues and people whom you dislike because they appear to threaten both your business interests and insecure, immature personality, you may not grasp the issue here.

I am not surprised, your comment about ...dementia... is another example of the foolish, "teenybopper" attitude toward others that I have seen in your posts since you joined this site.

It is what I expect of a punk kid and you never fail to behave as one.

I will not dignify your bullsch*t rant with a response in kind as I prefer to simply ignore guttersnipes and blowhards.

I would suggest that you try to understand that you merely make me laugh at your whining and I realize that you simply need to "grow up".

Did you just call him a 'guttersnipe'?? LMAO

No, Jim, try to control your mirth as I have no interest in a slagging match with him, or, you, or anyone.

I merely stated that I do NOT waste my time with persons who fit the terms I used as I am hardly suffering from ...dementia....

It is odd, tho', that a self-styled Christian, would make cruel slurs concerning this terrible affliction which devastates so many good people.....but, ...there are some kinds of ignorance, against which even the Gods, struggle in vain....Schiller.

If the roads are truly public roads (as opposed to forestry roads)they can't be gated. Personally, in cases as with the Douglas Lake ranch, I think it is a nice gesture to help them out by adding another, good quality, lock to their gates. By thereby doubling security, I have performed a good deed which makes me feel less guilty if I should happen to poach some of the lands or lakes they claim. GD

Thats a good idea greydog,, never thought of that.....helping them out with security,, I feel better already.

Me, too, BIG lock and chain!!!

Good morning Dewey. I've been following this, always wanted to hunt in BC. You didn't ask my opinion, but personally I'd consider your posts "provocative."

Specifically, the one below:





First, I can see why you'd be riled up by the actions of outsiders wanting to come in and shut off public access. That just isn't right and I would feel the same in your shoes.

But my question to you is, do you think the most important thing about these particular interlopers is that they're rich, entitled, ass-h****, or that they're American and German?

Seems to me that when you talk about ass-h**** of any stripe and then include their nationality, you're making a conscious decision to take a dig at that nationality.

Am I wrong about that? Maybe it wasn't your intent.

My comments here do NOT use the term ...ass-h****... at all and my references are very specific to actual events which have happened here during the past several years.

One such was when a person from Colorado, posted on his website, that his ski lodge, built two miles from my former home at Nelson, BC, did not WANT ...just any toque... there......

I called his office to discuss this, but, he was "home" in Colorado and I was just treated to a lot of BS about irresponsible hunters, yada, yada, blah, blah....

So, our problem is very complex, most of the foreigners now in the GO racket here ARE Americans and Germans and my intent, as always, was to post facts.

Wrong, well, whatever, this is THE time when WE owners of Canada, must take charge of OUR resources and do whatever it takes to preserve our sovereign heritage....and, Phil, we are doing just that and will continue to do so.

Just to be clear, I have always been against ANY foreign ownership of ANY lands, etc, in Canads and extend this to my cousins born in the US, so, I think that you are wrong in your inferences, no problem, tho', as many here are FAR more adamant about this than I am so far.

HTH, no offence intended.

Dewey, I'm really starting to pity you.

Oh, well that is VERY kind of you, however, things are going much better in this situation than many expected; we already have some concessions on the allocation issue from the current BC administration and, the tides of Canadian public opinion are turning much more rapidly then I have ever seen in decades of conservation and resource management.

So, your attempt to patronize and mock me is, well, actually exactly what fuels the current situation, do keep it up, old chap.

The way I see it,, Kutnay's point of view is the point of view shared by many long time hunters and citizens of bc.
Trouble is that most people in bc are foreigners and dont get it....
I'm not against americans or germans or anyone else,, I am against foreigners who change the laws to suit their needs at the expense of citizens of bc, in this case the hunting community at large.
Limiting access to huge tracts of land... locked gates, a higher % of game allocation, in the hands of foreigners,, bequeathed by a morally wrong decision by the bc government to allow it to happen.
I also share this view

The ironic aspect of this is that for YEARS, I was VERY "pro" GOs, actually was published in "BC Outdoors" advocating an end to the "packer" situation and have OFFERED here on many occasions to assist and even accompany US hunters here in the province which my family pioneered circa Confederation....

But, the REAL animus comes from those who damned well know that my predictions ARE spot on and things WILL soon change with serious consequences for many who seem to feel that they have some RIGHT to hunt/angle here.

Well, "there are none so blind, as those who will not see". Given the rage I see on many venues from BC people over this and some other resource/sovereignity issues, I think that the final outcome is obvious.

I have plsced anyone who has posted negative, personal comments to me on "ignore" and will not further respond to such behaviour, as it is not worth my time.

Geesus, you sure seem like a whiney fugg. Even for a quebeccer

Why bother.

I'm sure some recall initiatives could be started before this whole thing is over. They went way too far this time, and really I doubt they are smart enough to realize it.

Exactly.

FN Right on dude!!!

BC Liberal Minister Thomson claims he must allocate more game to the guides because they are being starved out of business.....BS in spades.



GREEN GUIDE
Canadian hunter pays $390K for right to hunt 1 mule deer
Posted March 1

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The Salt Lake Tribune
SALT LAKE CITY — This year's winning bidder to hunt a mule deer buck on Antelope Island paid a whopping $390,000, and that was just for the right to score one set of antlers.

The amount paid by the 24-year-old guide from Canada marked a record in the five-year history of the program run by the Salt Lake City-based Mule Deer Foundation.

The other winning bids have been big, too. Since 2011, hunters have paid more than $1.4 million to the foundation in the auctions, The Salt Lake Tribune reported (http://bit.ly/1JWvRLx). The money goes to wildlife conservation on the island in the middle of the Salt Lake.

"Some of the money raised from the auctions helps us run the show, but the majority of it goes to conservation projects to help all wildlife," said Miles Moretti, president and CEO of the Salt Lake City-based Mule Deer Foundation. "These auctions are helping to conserve wildlife across the country."

The winning bid by Troy Lorenz, a 24-year-old guide from Prince George, British Columbia, came during a recent Western Hunting & Conservation Expo held at the Salt Palace Convention Center. Expo officials say Lorenz also won the bid for a statewide mule deer hunting tag in Arizona, paying $320,000.


Read more at http://www.wral.com/canadian-hunter...-mule-deer/14482591/#Of7FAZwp64jeMPmd.99

You are or have chosen to take our plight all wrong. We are not anti American, what we are is anti having up to 40% 0r B.Cs wildlife given to GUIDES for resale to the highest bidder when we can not hunt these animals ourselves. I have been putting in for an elk draw in my "back yard" for over 30 yrs. yet guides are given an allocation of tags every year to be sold, sometimes multiple times if the first hunter is unsuccessful or given away to family and friends. This happens all over the province. I see you list a number of states as "home" most of which allocate 5-10% of tags to non residents. How would you feel if suddenly they were giving 40% to non residents? As stated we are not anti-American or even anti-guide(although our guiding system is seriously broken and must be torn down and fixed from the ground up) what we are is pro resident PRIORITY both here and everywhere else in North America.