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After a 25 to 30 year career and no kids to pass the shop off to maybe the guy just wanted to retire and reap the rewards of his hard work through the sale of the business. As a businessman I can not fault him for wanting to enjoy his golden years, at some point we all want to retire . As far as the continuation Law is not Bansner no matter how much they want to mimic him and his rifles . It's the guy driving the bus that matters and the fact that he put his hart and soul into his work. I look for guys that are still doing their own work rather than large enterprises where you never know who is really building the rifle. I look at it this way if you want fine art you go to Picasso not Looney Tunes. Best of luck to Mark and enjoy retirement.
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Really hate to see folks bashing a product before they even hold one. Everybody deserves a chance. These rifles have the right pedigree to be potentially really nice. I would imagine they will be on par with the nosler patriot and similar rifles. Also, why is a 1:10 twist for a .243 bad? Isn't that pretty much the industry standard?
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The price of the stock blanks has also risen to $290 I had a Remington 700 SA ADL w/ check piece delivered last week for $232. Turn around time was less than a week from when I placed the order.
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It looks like a nice rifle in the $1500-$2000 price range. If the quality control is monitored closely it should be a nice option for folks. Anyone have experience with the 704 action?
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Really hate to see folks bashing a product before they even hold one. Everybody deserves a chance. These rifles have the right pedigree to be potentially really nice. I would imagine they will be on par with the nosler patriot and similar rifles. Also, why is a 1:10 twist for a .243 bad? Isn't that pretty much the industry standard? I'm onboard with you regarding this new company and Mark Bansner's reputation. I doubt that he'll let a POS go out with his name and well deserved reputation attached to it and if that turns out to be the case down the road, he'll either detach himself from the venture or try his hardest to make things right. His stocks are among the best and the Ed Brown 704 action was great also. As far as the twist rate in the 243 is concerned, if enough people bitch and moan about it, they'll probably change that as well to a 1-9". Unless the barrels turn out to be junk, I'd say they are bringing all the right stuff together to make a fine rifle at a very reasonable price.
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The twist on the 243 is indeed a bit peculiar but from my perspective, there is very little to not like with "The Closer" offering. Some will bemoan barrel lengths on some of the offerings but that's a pretty easy fix. I just need to decide on a chambering I "need".
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The twist on the 243 is indeed a bit peculiar but from my perspective, there is very little to not like with "The Closer" offering. Some will bemoan barrel lengths on some of the offerings but that's a pretty easy fix. I just need to decide on a chambering I "need". Scott, Here is your answer - 7MM-08:) But you already knew that...
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Where are you guys buying .243 rifles with a different twist than 1:10....the winchester website lists their twist as 1:10 as well as the nosler website in the patriot rifle.
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Same as Savage. Ruger is 1-9"
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You guys know more than me. I watched Bansner and his stock maker on the cable TV show "How it's made". I bought (2) stocks, a 98 Mauser and a Rem 700 for $250 each, through Brownells and worked them with putty-cote and paint. I got a Win M70 pre 64 bansner stock finished off 24HCF classified, for $400. Brownells still has the blanks http://www.brownells.com/manufacturers/HIGH%20TECH%20SPECIALTIES/index.htmBut I am so old, I don't think I have enough time left to be finishing stock blanks any more.
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I have about 240 into mine Think it looks good
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The price of the stock blanks has also risen to $290 I had a Remington 700 SA ADL w/ check piece delivered last week for $232. Turn around time was less than a week from when I placed the order. Interesting, I emailed them 2 days ago and this is what they said: "Thanks for your inquiry. The current stock prices are $290.00. Thanks, Xxxx xxxxxxx Office Manager 261 E. Main Street Adamstown, PA 19501 Phone: 717-484-2370 Fax: 717-484-0523"
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The price of the stock blanks has also risen to $290 I had a Remington 700 SA ADL w/ check piece delivered last week for $232. Turn around time was less than a week from when I placed the order. Interesting, I emailed them 2 days ago and this is what they said: "Thanks for your inquiry. The current stock prices are $290.00. Thanks, Xxxx xxxxxxx Office Manager 261 E. Main Street Adamstown, PA 19501 Phone: 717-484-2370 Fax: 717-484-0523" I can only guess they literally just changed the price, or maybe charge more for different models ADL vs BDL etc. Maybe I ordered just in time or or even got a discount for being so charismatic ? This was the email I received; I called a couple days later to place the order on the phone. Total cost w/ shipping was $232 and I got it last week. From: Info Mailbox (LAW) <info law-arms.com> To: XXXXXXXXXX Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:23 AM Subject: RE: 700 short action ADL w/ cheek piece price The cost of the our Remington 700 Stock with cheek is $218.00 plus shipping. The turnaround time is approx. 6 weeks. If you have any more questions please let me know. Thanks, Hope Gehman Office Manager
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Possibly a gunsmith or commercial discount?
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I hope they put the cheek piece on the production LAW's.
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In an email last week their office manager quoted me a price of $218 plus shipping for a blank. That was for a Rem 700 ADL blank.
Has anyone here filled in the barrel channel for a factory cut sporter weight to reduce the gaps for a mountain rifle barrel profile? Is that a difficult job?
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Not difficult at all. Just get some of that stuff they use in body shops (think they call it bondo) and fill the barrel channel. Wrap a couple of thicknesses of masking tape around the barrel and drop her into the stock. Mask off the outside and top edges of the stock so that when you done you just pull the barreled action out, then remove the masking tape from the outside of the stock and you're done. If you don't mask off the outside of the barrel channel, it will take a lot more work of sanding to taste.
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