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I've had enough problems with blasers as well. The plastic they are made from does not adhere as well as other brands for me.

There are ways around it but why bother when other vanes that just work easy?


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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by rost495
Would not shoot anything but a shelf with a recurve.


Why?


Because if I can't shoot instinctively, I may as well shoot my coumpound.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Originally Posted by rost495
Would not shoot anything but a shelf with a recurve.


Why?


Because if I can't shoot instinctively, I may as well shoot my coumpound.


All that instinctive nonsense was unknown during the time of our greatest known archers but if it makes you happy I am fine with you shooting however you want.

How do I know if I qualify for instinctive? Where's the list? Can I use Velcro on my shelf or is that out? If it's leather only, what about the glue? Does commercially tanned leather count or do I have to use brain tanned and make my own fish glue?

I'm being obtuse on purpose just to make the point that it's purely subjective as to what qualifies as instinctive.

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I'm not getting into the weeds with that stuff again. It doesn't matter whether it's modern or primitive equipment. I'm pretty sure that anybody that shoots with any type of sighting arrangement or technique, and shoots instinctively also, knows the difference. Anybody that shoots a lot of clays with a shotgun can explain it as well.

"Instictive shooting" has been around since the first rock was thrown and is nothing more than hand/eye coordination achieved through practice.



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Originally Posted by ltppowell
I'm not getting into the weeds with that stuff again. It doesn't matter whether it's modern or primitive equipment. I'm pretty sure that anybody that shoots with any type of sighting arrangement or technique, and shoots instinctively also, knows the difference. Anybody that shoots a lot of clays with a shotgun can explain it as well.

"Instictive shooting" has been around since the first rock was thrown and is nothing more than hand/eye coordination achieved through practice.



Maybe I'm bored to even discuss it, but I don't see how a stick on rest changes your definition of instinctive at all.

Anyway, shoot whatever you like and I wish you well with it.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
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I'm not getting into the weeds with that stuff again. It doesn't matter whether it's modern or primitive equipment. I'm pretty sure that anybody that shoots with any type of sighting arrangement or technique, and shoots instinctively also, knows the difference. Anybody that shoots a lot of clays with a shotgun can explain it as well.

"Instictive shooting" has been around since the first rock was thrown and is nothing more than hand/eye coordination achieved through practice.



Maybe I'm bored to even discuss it, but I don't see how a stick on rest changes your definition of instinctive at all.

Anyway, shoot whatever you like and I wish you well with it.


I wish you well also and it doesn't change my definition of instinctive at all...it's just that the higher your arrow is elevated above your hand, the harder it is to shoot instinctively. Any cant of the bow causes the arrow to fly in the direction of the lean.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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I'm not getting into the weeds with that stuff again. It doesn't matter whether it's modern or primitive equipment. I'm pretty sure that anybody that shoots with any type of sighting arrangement or technique, and shoots instinctively also, knows the difference. Anybody that shoots a lot of clays with a shotgun can explain it as well.

"Instictive shooting" has been around since the first rock was thrown and is nothing more than hand/eye coordination achieved through practice.



Maybe I'm bored to even discuss it, but I don't see how a stick on rest changes your definition of instinctive at all.

Anyway, shoot whatever you like and I wish you well with it.


I wish you well also and it doesn't change my definition of instinctive at all...it's just that the higher your arrow is elevated above your hand, the harder it is to shoot instinctively. Any cant of the bow causes the arrow to fly in the direction of the lean.


I've not found that to be the case in my shooting.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
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Just because if going traditional, I go all the way back. Plus the bows shoot better for my eye with the arrow on top of the hand or very close to it.

One could shoot carbon, vanes, and mechanicals with a recurve I suppose...

I shoot cedar and 2 blade COC heads or 3 blade snuffers. If I were to start shooting my bows again, i'd probably be shooting cedar with stone heads.


I don't have a problem with anything anyone wants to shoot. Whatever your conscious dictates is fine with me but I see the whole "not trad enough" thing as completely ridiculous.

My Trad bow bow is a technological marvel of 6 layers of FRP laminated together with high tech glue using one of the most modern string materials ever developed yet, if I shoot off the shelf it's trad but a stick on rest isn't. It's very hypocritical IMHO.

Every bow and all materials used are extremely modern unless you went naked into the woods, chipped out a knife and fashioned a bow and arrows with only natural materials you killed and rendered in the wild. Even then, I drive to this trad shoot in my 2010 F150 crew cab.LOL

What about the shelf materials you use. Is it always brain tanned leather and glued on with hide glue. See my point?

Again, I am fine with people shooting whatever makes them happy. I just don't understand the "not trad enough" attitude.


Not traditional enough for ME... I don't care what you use or how you use it.

It was just my feelings plus I shoot a LOT better with the arrow by my hand... I had to do a LOT of shooting to get comfortable with a flipper.

When I dumped that and went to a shelf, and beaver hair.... I shot a lot better and "easier"

Not much of an issue any more since I can barely shoot a compound due to vol fire dept injury in a structure fire. And so now I mostly shoot a crossbow....works fine too.


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