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Doesn't help me any, but I guess I could pick up a few more flood certs in lieu of a subdivision.  just develop in the flood zone, use fill to bring it above the BFE, than file a LOMR-F.
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I guess all the people that work oil refineries, ports, CG, NAVY etc etc should live in South Dakota and commute to their jobs daily in Texas/Florida/LA etc etc.
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I guess all the people that work oil refineries, ports, CG, NAVY etc etc should live in South Dakota and commute to their jobs daily in Texas/Florida/LA etc etc. A house boat comes to mind...... Feel free to keep trying to convince me to subsidize oil refineries......
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Doesn't help me any, but I guess I could pick up a few more flood certs in lieu of a subdivision. just develop in the flood zone, use fill to bring it above the BFE, than file a LOMR-F. Oh, but not here, most all jurisdictions here have a NO FILL in the flood plain policy for development. Don't ask why, it is embarrassing.
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We really need a revamping that discourages building on flood plains. Yes, harbors, docks, etc are required, but second homes, cities, and such are not. Why anyone goes to the expense of rebuilding on the same lot when they've had 4 ft of water in a living room is beyond me.
Last spring a news person was interviewing a retired couple. When they purchased their home they were told there had been no water there for 13 yrs, so they thought they were safe. HELLO?
Wake up people.
There should be some substantial effort to accurately define flood plains, but it should be buyer beware for those that want to buy and build. If they can afford private sector insurance that's fine, but Gov should not run agencies to bail everyone out and put them back into the same lot.
We repeatedly see folks in our closed basin move in, buy and build in the flood plain against everyone's advice, and then put everyone else at fault when the water shows up the third year. I'm sorry, but you were warned. The price for beach/lake front property can be very extreme in the long run.
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I guess all the people that work oil refineries, ports, CG, NAVY etc etc should live in South Dakota and commute to their jobs daily in Texas/Florida/LA etc etc. They could always build their refineries in South Dakota. How hard could it be to develope transportation means to the rest of the world, build a work force from the reservations and make the climate more temperate?
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We really need a revamping that discourages building on flood plains. Yes, harbors, docks, etc are required, but second homes, cities, and such are not. Why anyone goes to the expense of rebuilding on the same lot when they've had 4 ft of water in a living room is beyond me.
Last spring a news person was interviewing a retired couple. When they purchased their home they were told there had been no water there for 13 yrs, so they thought they were safe. HELLO?
Wake up people.
There should be some substantial effort to accurately define flood plains, but it should be buyer beware for those that want to buy and build. If they can afford private sector insurance that's fine, but Gov should not run agencies to bail everyone out and put them back into the same lot.
We repeatedly see folks in our closed basin move in, buy and build in the flood plain against everyone's advice, and then put everyone else at fault when the water shows up the third year. I'm sorry, but you were warned. The price for beach/lake front property can be very extreme in the long run. That sounds pretty easy doesn't it? Let them eat cake.
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We really need a revamping that discourages building on flood plains. Yes, harbors, docks, etc are required, but second homes, cities, and such are not. Why anyone goes to the expense of rebuilding on the same lot when they've had 4 ft of water in a living room is beyond me.
Last spring a news person was interviewing a retired couple. When they purchased their home they were told there had been no water there for 13 yrs, so they thought they were safe. HELLO?
Wake up people.
There should be some substantial effort to accurately define flood plains, but it should be buyer beware for those that want to buy and build. If they can afford private sector insurance that's fine, but Gov should not run agencies to bail everyone out and put them back into the same lot.
We repeatedly see folks in our closed basin move in, buy and build in the flood plain against everyone's advice, and then put everyone else at fault when the water shows up the third year. I'm sorry, but you were warned. The price for beach/lake front property can be very extreme in the long run. Agreed, and the exact same logic should be applied to fire zones in the PRK as well.
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well, they've gotten away with hijacking health care (so far) they might as well hijack where people can live. In other words, it's another power grab. 
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well, they've gotten away with hijacking health care (so far) they might as well hijack where people can live. In other words, it's another power grab. Wrong. No one called for .gov to be in it. In fact, the call was for .gov to get OUT of it. Let private insurers dictate the market for property insurance. Right now, .gov subsidizes people to live in places where they get flooded or burned out, time and again, and the taxpayers foot the bill. That's wrong, and it needs to stop.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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That sounds pretty easy doesn't it? Let them eat cake No. It's a version of let them eat bread. Cake only if they can afford it.
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We really need a revamping that discourages building on flood plains. Yes, harbors, docks, etc are required, but second homes, cities, and such are not. Why anyone goes to the expense of rebuilding on the same lot when they've had 4 ft of water in a living room is beyond me.
Last spring a news person was interviewing a retired couple. When they purchased their home they were told there had been no water there for 13 yrs, so they thought they were safe. HELLO?
Wake up people.
There should be some substantial effort to accurately define flood plains, but it should be buyer beware for those that want to buy and build. If they can afford private sector insurance that's fine, but Gov should not run agencies to bail everyone out and put them back into the same lot.
We repeatedly see folks in our closed basin move in, buy and build in the flood plain against everyone's advice, and then put everyone else at fault when the water shows up the third year. I'm sorry, but you were warned. The price for beach/lake front property can be very extreme in the long run. Agreed, and the exact same logic should be applied to fire zones in the PRK as well. Throw in hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes (insert natural disaster)...
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I think the 7th Fleet should relocate to N. Dakota. The CG could move all operations to S. Dakota and I guess shipyards would be right at home in Wyoming.
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Old high water marks are not hard to spot.
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Then there are all those fertile river bottom lands that produce LOTS of crops. Farmers can grow corn on Pike's Peak.
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I'm required to have flood insurance where I live. The house I'm in is 90 years old, has never flooded. In fact flood waters have never reached the levels that my house is on in recorded history, but a portion of my property (down the hill) is in the flood plain, so I'm required.
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Then there are all those fertile river bottom lands that produce LOTS of crops. Farmers can grow corn on Pike's Peak. While we are at it, we might as well stop subsidizing farming and let everyone pay for what it really cost to grow a head of lettuce or an ear of corn, on Pike's Peak no less.
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I'm required to have flood insurance where I live. The house I'm in is 90 years old, has never flooded. In fact flood waters have never reached the levels that my house is on in recorded history, but a portion of my property (down the hill) is in the flood plain, so I'm required. there is a process to get rid of that requirment if you are interested, but with your home being outside the floodplain your insurance is likely cheap and worth having anyways.
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Yes, the insurance cost is only $250 a year and I'd have it anyways.
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We really need a revamping that discourages building on flood plains. Yes, harbors, docks, etc are required, but second homes, cities, and such are not. Why anyone goes to the expense of rebuilding on the same lot when they've had 4 ft of water in a living room is beyond me.
Last spring a news person was interviewing a retired couple. When they purchased their home they were told there had been no water there for 13 yrs, so they thought they were safe. HELLO?
Wake up people.
There should be some substantial effort to accurately define flood plains, but it should be buyer beware for those that want to buy and build. If they can afford private sector insurance that's fine, but Gov should not run agencies to bail everyone out and put them back into the same lot.
We repeatedly see folks in our closed basin move in, buy and build in the flood plain against everyone's advice, and then put everyone else at fault when the water shows up the third year. I'm sorry, but you were warned. The price for beach/lake front property can be very extreme in the long run. Agreed, and the exact same logic should be applied to fire zones in the PRK as well. Throw in hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes (insert natural disaster)... Absolutely.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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