Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors Yet another gouger on gunbroker

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=468876270

I called this azzhole out about it and he replied he was going to report me. Really? Goforit!

When was the last time you were ever able to contact gunbroker directly and get a response anyway, azzhole?

Friggin' moron.

What's the issue with the listing- other than being severely overpriced? Looks like a $750 gun to me, but someone may actually pay that much.

That is the issue.

Obama should do something about this. There needs to be a law...

With your obvious displeasure at the price of this gun, I wouldn't buy it, if I were you.

yeah, as he says, the stock IS "rougher". But I don't see where he misrepresents it- just seems a little optimistic about it's worth.
John

Didn't. wouldn't.

You could grow old waiting to sell that one for 500.00 where I shop.
Doesn't stop him from asking whatever he wants to though.
Maybe you could trade straight across with him for a 1200.00 dollar 10-22?

Same here, POP.
Sorry, sir. That's a $500-$600 gun you're trolling for $1150.

That 10-22 trade ain't a bad idea, but not one of my good ones. I could drop the Winnie into a nice Mac Edge or Echols Legend, if he threw in say, $350.

But, I also got a really nice stainless slingshot that'll dot a tomcat's eye with a marble at a hunnerd feet he could maybe talk me out of. Maybe.

Not worth getting your panties in a bunch over, chill out and wait till a better gun that is fairly priced comes along. Inflated prices are everywhere, check out 52 Sporters, M/70 parts or Alaskan scopes for just a few more examples of gouging.

Wiz, I hear ya. Not upset. Just call a spade a spade when it comes to gougers, especially on a rifle I've been looking for. .270 FWT being one of 'em.

Heck, I wouldn't at all even mind stumbling on a 64 or Model 12, like those stashed in a Kaywoodie, tmitch, RGK or shrap library.

Some folks even buy Caddys and Lincs...

Who are you to say what he should be charging for his rifle? IF you think it's to much then don't buy it, pretty simple.

rost, Love Caddys. Last steed my Dad bought before he passed was a slicked out Caddy. Couldn't even drive the damn thing. He kept runnin' off the road and schit. Couldn't see. Nazzies phugged him up, you see.

reelman, like I said.. and I am to say. Callin a spade a spade.
Love the Pack. you GFY now, you heah.

LD

Gunbroker's got some dreamers and unrealistic sellers, but I can't call them gougers because you have a choice to look elsewhere. Probably for every gun I've bought off there I've looked at, and turned down, a hundred others of the same model. Don't like the price, the condition, the terms of the sale? Move on and don't look back, there'll be what you're looking for eventually......but be ready to slap leather cuz you aren't the only one looking for it.

Would have no problem paying $500.00 for that gun....a real bargain at that price. Matter of fact, I'll take two or three of them.

Local Dirt, You will not like where I price my model 70's, most come in high and go out higher! When it comes to pre 64 mod 70's you have to bear in mind you started out with 600K.... How many are left out there is anyones guess. very best winpoor

Yeah, i know,WP. But, I've seen some of yours and they don't look anything like that one.

Local Dirt, were I in the biz of putting a value on a gun or if I were to make that guy an offer I would give him 750 and never bat an eye. I would clean it up and refinish the wood and hunt hell out of it, Im saying this without going back and looking the gun over as I hate extra holes! I have seen and bought many dogs that cleaned up real nice and after a real ,to the metal bore scrub and several factory loads to look see what they liked ended up being super shooters! No doubt some bad barrels got out the door but Ive been very lucky when it came to pre 64 model 70's and accuracy. On a good day I might offer the fellow 800 for this gun! very best my friend! WinchesterPOOR

Personally, I don't think he's way out of line. If you've ever looked for a good 270 fwt, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, there's killer deals out there. If you are willing to wait it out. Good luck on finding a really nice 270 fwt for under $1,300.00. One thing I've noticed about the 270's, is most of them got used hard, kind of like the 375's and 338's. Guys bought these in particular with full intent on using them. I guess we'll see if he gets any bids on the rifle. That will tell us if it is priced too high. If it were me, I'd probably pull the scope and rings. Sell them on ebay, pull the stock and sell it on ebay, and slap it in a nice brown McMillan . That's just me and I'm goofy that way...

winpoor's right. Like he's said before, the rifle will sell itself. When you put it on an auction site, the price will sometimes skyrocket beyond belief. Personally I really don't like that, even when I'm the seller (BTDT). I've pulled rifles from gunbroker before when someone here noticed I was selling and sold them for a "reasonable" price to guys here. I'd much rather someone were very happy with the selling price, then get buyers remorse because their over inflated ego's got the best of them on an auction site.

Guys, I hear what you're saying. But, if it were me selling that gun, I'd start it at a lower price, like $600, and let the market decide where to take it. Not, start it at $1150. That's knocking at the door of the highest price I've ever paid for any of my rifles. And trust me, none of them look even remotely like that one. But, I do a lot of diggin' around to find mine. I'm picky as hell, but I don't mind paying for a nice one.

it is a 270 after all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats worth something

Smart man, that way these are a true investment and if/when you decide to sell them, you can do so and make someone very happy with a great deal and know you treated them right. I hear you. Guilty of doing the same kind of thing myself....

I paid $1,350.00 for mine because it was nice (not beat to hell) and I knew the history. Sometimes I pay a touch more when it's the right one..

Exactly! that's what I'd do! Heck, I might even pay Winpoor's prices for his guns for that same reasoning!

My nicest rifle is my .264 Win Mag M70. Absolutely pristine and I paid $1100 for it.
Next should probably be my flawless Sako 75 Hunter .270 Win that I paid $1100 for, but I've gotten so attached to the 30-06 FWT I bought off handwerk, it's now trumpin' the Sako for me!

After I bought my '56 30-06 fwt, I got rid of 3 other newer 30-06's in the stable . They just didn't compare!! Not even the slick azzed light extreme weather I had in the hunters compact edge. The pre 64 is slicker, more accurate and it fits me better. I don't just buy/like them because they are iconic or for nostalgic reasons..

BSA, I just put another layaway payment on a Swarovski Z3 3-9x36, 4A reticle that Doug at Cameraland sold me as a display item.

IIRC, the FWT 30-06 I bought off handwerk is also a '56. Can't wait to get it all together!

Best Wishes,
LD

Excellent scope choice for that fwt. I really like the one (older Habicht) on my pre 64 338. It's light and clear as hell. My only complaint is the tracking isn't as precise as I'd like. It stays zeroed, but I wouldn't want to spin turrets with it..It will, however, suit my needs for dark timber elk hunting quite nicely...

Some times the buyers can be just as bad as the sellers in regards to overpricing. A good example of how a detailed description and good pictures can equal mo money.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=468616436

LOL... good one.

One can get Kimber 84 for what he is asking and scope + rings is about $75 of that package.

Yeah, it only took handwerk 2 or weeks of cajoling to convince me to buy something other than a Leupold, for a change. Just kidding. LOL

But, he's got half a dozen or more on his other M70's, so it finally got through my ironhead that there must be something to them.

Now that I've come over to the Swaro dark side, I'm really excited to see it all come together.

A gun is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it. And this is America, a man can ask whatever he wants for his gun

Local Dirt, why don't you check GB everyday from now on and report back here every 70 that you in your expert opinion think is overpriced.

Yawn.

Get a life Dirt Bag.

99gay,
I look at gunbroker and a lot of other places and I don't waste a lot of time calling out a gouger.

But, a gouger is a gouger and I'll call the flagrant ones out whenever i get the notion.

And, I sure the [bleep] don't have to report to you for any gun I may be looking at or anything else for that matter.

Now go kiss your boyfriend's ass g'night.

Typical hillbilly redneck dumb pffuck response from somebody "south of south."

Anybody smarter than you must be gay.

Keep an eye out for any more gougers.

We'll all be waiting on pins on needles for your next report.

You could spend 24 hours a day pointing out guys who ask too much for guns on Gunbroker.

Dreamer yes but not price gouging

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. This rapid increase in prices occurs after a demand or supply shock: examples include price increases after hurricanes or other natural disasters. In precise, legal usage, it is the name of a crime that applies in some of the United States during civil emergencies. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market, or to windfall profits. In the Soviet Union, it was simply included under the single definition of speculation.

The term is similar to profiteering but can be distinguished by being short-term and localized, and by a restriction to essentials such as food, clothing, shelter, medicine and equipment needed to preserve life, limb and property. In jurisdictions where there is no such crime, the term may still be used to pressure firms to refrain from such behavior.

I've heard the "Jerry Springer Show" has episodes like what this thread is turning into.

I agree the price is too high, but it is technically not gouging until you charge someone too much when they have virtually no choice but to buy. I get that the OP is miffed, but hopefully a lack of market response will educate the seller. If he gets his asking price, then I guess it is we who have misjudged the market. Edit: Just checked and there were zero bids, so order restored, at least for now.

Per my rant on another thread, at least the guy is asking too much for an intact rifle. It could be worse.