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I've never understood how people get joy by poking a hornet nest with a stick.
People fought and bled for your constitutional rights. Cops hate the Constitution. they'd be so happy if it wasn't there. Kinda like the Nazi Germany days we seem to be slipping into. (“Because the second you open your window they can say they smell alcohol,” said Warren Redlich.) I thought alcohol was colorless and oderless? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read....even from you, and THAT is saying something
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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I think we all want to see the time come when police can search everyone like they do commercial drivers and be able to enter homes to make sure things are on the level, police most of all. Of course they and judges and do on need to be exempt from this legislation when it comes to pass.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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Cops hate the Constitution. That's a hell of a blanket statement. And full of chit. So was the cop that claimed my Swisher Sweet cigar smelt like weed and ripped into my car and took my gun. There's the 2nd and 4th right there. dum sheet found nothing IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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I'm all for taking drunks off the road but how many here who see no issue with simply stopping everyone because they're driving to check would have no problem with random, unannounced, warrant-less inspections of your home just because you own a gun?
It's just to get the illegal guys' guns and if you've done nothing illegal - you have nothing to worry about. Right? That would be fine. Not sure why any decent Conservative would have an issue with that since it would not interfere with their legal hunting activities or legal organized shooting events. Because as a decent conservative it directly violates and interferes with the 4th amendment to the constitution.
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I'm all for taking drunks off the road but how many here who see no issue with simply stopping everyone because they're driving to check would have no problem with random, unannounced, warrant-less inspections of your home just because you own a gun?
It's just to get the illegal guys' guns and if you've done nothing illegal - you have nothing to worry about. Right? That would be fine. Not sure why any decent Conservative would have an issue with that since it would not interfere with their legal hunting activities or legal organized shooting events. Because as a decent conservative it directly violates and interferes with the 4th amendment to the constitution. That document has never been a problem for Conservatives and more than it has been for liberals. Look at all that Reagan and Lincoln did as our 2 greatest Conservative Republican Presidents. You think they could have done any of that worrying about non-existent limitations?
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The one aspect that I haven't seen mentioned is that "DRIVING" is a privilege & not a right Lots of people aren't allowed to drive because of mental or physical defects not even slightly related to DUI...DUI checkpoints an infringement of my constitutional rights??? Yeah...right. I don't take issue with it based upon my driving privileges. I take issue with it based upon my 4th amendment CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT not to be searched or seized without a judicially sanctioned warrant with probable cause. Driving is NOT probable cause to think I've also been drinking. The DUI checkpoints are an attack on driver's rights but peoples constitutional rights under the 4th.
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So was the cop that claimed my Swisher Sweet cigar smelt like weed and ripped into my car and took my gun. There's the 2nd and 4th right there. dum sheet found nothing IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole Yes, police are free to make up and enforce "laws" simply because they do not like someone, then claim later they don't make up laws, they only enforce them if the interaction gets slipped on to youtube.
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The one aspect that I haven't seen mentioned is that "DRIVING" is a privilege & not a right Lots of people aren't allowed to drive because of mental or physical defects not even slightly related to DUI...DUI checkpoints an infringement of my constitutional rights??? Yeah...right. I don't take issue with it based upon my driving privileges. I take issue with it based upon my 4th amendment CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT not to be searched or seized without a judicially sanctioned warrant with probable cause. Driving is NOT probable cause to think I've also been drinking. The DUI checkpoints are an attack on driver's rights but peoples constitutional rights under the 4th. You do not have rights, you have privileges. You sound less like a Conservative and more like one of the nutjob libertarian types that want to do away with firearms laws, force people to smoke pop whether they want to or not, and(perhaps worst of all) not allow exemptions for laws which is a form of anarchy.
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If driving is probable cause for DUI - then being male is probable cause to stop and check you out for rape.
None's been reported but damn if you don't have the required pieces to make it happen. Just like driving a car.
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The one aspect that I haven't seen mentioned is that "DRIVING" is a privilege & not a right Lots of people aren't allowed to drive because of mental or physical defects not even slightly related to DUI...DUI checkpoints an infringement of my constitutional rights??? Yeah...right. I don't take issue with it based upon my driving privileges. I take issue with it based upon my 4th amendment CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT not to be searched or seized without a judicially sanctioned warrant with probable cause. Driving is NOT probable cause to think I've also been drinking. The DUI checkpoints are an attack on driver's rights but peoples constitutional rights under the 4th. You do not have rights, you have privileges. You sound less like a Conservative and more like one of the nutjob libertarian types that want to do away with firearms laws, force people to smoke pop whether they want to or not, and(perhaps worst of all) not allow exemptions for laws which is a form of anarchy. Bullshit You're wrong and you know it. I'm fine with a hell of a lot more freedoms when it comes to firearms. No clue what "smoking pop" means. RIGHTS come from our creator. We have the RIGHT to be free. It's our RIGHT not a damned privilege to go about our business when there's ZERO indication we've committed a crime. DRIVING at NIGHT is NOT an indication of the commission of a crime. You sound like a statist, not realizing you're EXACTLY the type that would be crushed immediately under a totalitarian government. I suggest you spend some time in countries where people didn't recognize those RIGHTS a little and get back to us on just what is or isn't the proper role of the government.
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If driving is probable cause for DUI - then being male is probable cause to stop and check you out for rape.
None's been reported but damn if you don't have the required pieces to make it happen. Just like driving a car. Yes it is, unless you are a police officer. Then they try to drag it out awhile until things blow over.
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The one aspect that I haven't seen mentioned is that "DRIVING" is a privilege & not a right Lots of people aren't allowed to drive because of mental or physical defects not even slightly related to DUI...DUI checkpoints an infringement of my constitutional rights??? Yeah...right. I don't take issue with it based upon my driving privileges. I take issue with it based upon my 4th amendment CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT not to be searched or seized without a judicially sanctioned warrant with probable cause. Driving is NOT probable cause to think I've also been drinking. The DUI checkpoints are an attack on driver's rights but peoples constitutional rights under the 4th. You do not have rights, you have privileges. You sound less like a Conservative and more like one of the nutjob libertarian types that want to do away with firearms laws, force people to smoke pop whether they want to or not, and(perhaps worst of all) not allow exemptions for laws which is a form of anarchy. Bullshit You're wrong and you know it. I'm fine with a hell of a lot more freedoms when it comes to firearms. No clue what "smoking pop" means. RIGHTS come from our creator. We have the RIGHT to be free. It's our RIGHT not a damned privilege to go about our business when there's ZERO indication we've committed a crime. DRIVING at NIGHT is NOT an indication of the commission of a crime. You sound like a statist, not realizing you're EXACTLY the type that would be crushed immediately under a totalitarian government. I suggest you spend some time in countries where people didn't recognize those RIGHTS a little and get back to us on just what is or isn't the proper role of the government. We need more restrictions when it comes to firearms based on LE support for those laws. Screwed up the typing. Supposed to be "pot", but they would probably force people to smoke "pop" also. Not sure how they would do it since their designs would hamper police power, but I am sure they would do something. We have to bring up the "force you to smoke pot" thing when someone indicates they dislike a Republican candidate so no reason to not use that here. I am right and you are not. If we had "right" we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place. Instead we have privileges.
"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it." - Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn
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So was the cop (full of $hit) that claimed my Swisher Sweet cigar smelt like weed and ripped into my car and took my gun. There's the 2nd and 4th right there. dum sheet found nothing IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole I hate their (cops) lack of regard for free society under our Constitution where citizens in good standing have rights. Meaning, you can't take them away just because you think you want to try. They simply disrespect peoples rights or they wouldn't continually push the envelope. They're on the other side. Hmmm...a very accurate description by Fireball2. In fact, dead on...! Funny how some LEO's feel they have the right to violate others people's rights, just because others don't 'obey' them, or kiss their a$$, or provide them with the respect 'they' feel they are owed by the public.
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DUI checkpoints are proof positive that this country is totally [bleep].
They should be fought tooth and nail in every jurisdiction in this country.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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So was the cop (full of $hit) that claimed my Swisher Sweet cigar smelt like weed and ripped into my car and took my gun. There's the 2nd and 4th right there. dum sheet found nothing IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole I hate their (cops) lack of regard for free society under our Constitution where citizens in good standing have rights. Meaning, you can't take them away just because you think you want to try. They simply disrespect peoples rights or they wouldn't continually push the envelope. They're on the other side. Hmmm...a very accurate description by Fireball2. In fact, dead on...! Funny how some LEO's feel they have the right to violate others people's rights, just because others don't 'obey' them, or kiss their a$$, or provide them with the respect 'they' feel they are owed by the public. Listen stupid. My statement is written very plainly to show that the OP is likely full of schit...hence the if and BIG IF parts of the statement. i don't believe him, but I think you do solely based upon your voracious jealousy of cops
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole When did becoming an arrogant azz hole become against the law?
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IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole When did becoming an arrogant azz hole become against the law? Welcome to the San Quentin of the internet....
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People fought and bled for your constitutional rights. Cops hate the Constitution. they'd be so happy if it wasn't there. Kinda like the Nazi Germany days we seem to be slipping into. The more you type, the faster your stupidity becomes public knowledge. Hint......
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole When did becoming an arrogant azz hole become against the law? It isn't. I typed that to call attention to him likely being full of scheit
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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IF and a big IF that happened EXACTLY like you stated, it's likely that it happened just because you acted like an aroggant azz hole When did becoming an arrogant azz hole become against the law? The role of the police, for the most part, is to generate revenue and distribute force (and violence) on behalf of the government, which is the only clientele they have to please.
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