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Right to work just means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.....with unsafe working conditions and the best workers leaving for a union job. Obviously a great improvement. 
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They will not be under the unions labor contract.
Whatever they and the business decide on for compensation is between the employee and the employer. It is certainly not the business of other employees and for damn sure not the business of the union.
They may offer the exact same as the union, maybe more, maybe less. I'm not thinking that is correct, my understanding is they will still be covered under the bargaining agreement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ns-can-survive-in-a-right-to-work-world/
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ya might not like unions, but its an undeniable fact that, right to work states have much higher poverty, and much higher public assistance numbers, as well as lower median income rates. Coop Dog, one word... Detroit
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Yep, that's definitely an accurate word for unionistas, the left, and socialists in general; right along with politicians, lawyers, insurance agents, and parking meter "cops".
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They will not be under the unions labor contract.
Whatever they and the business decide on for compensation is between the employee and the employer. It is certainly not the business of other employees and for damn sure not the business of the union.
They may offer the exact same as the union, maybe more, maybe less. MM, A good many employers in right to work states use the contract signed with the unions to govern their compensation and work rules for all employees. My employer has a stipulation in their contract with the union that requires the union to represent non union employees who are subject to disciplinary action.
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They will not be under the unions labor contract.
Whatever they and the business decide on for compensation is between the employee and the employer. It is certainly not the business of other employees and for damn sure not the business of the union.
They may offer the exact same as the union, maybe more, maybe less. I'm not thinking that is correct, my understanding is they will still be covered under the bargaining agreement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ns-can-survive-in-a-right-to-work-world/ Is this information correct?
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Parasites.
Offspring of.....
Scabs.
They get the benefits of union accomplishments and pay nothing.
The good employees will move on to less backward states.
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States with the fastest growing economies: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-fastest-growing-economies-new/10377735/Eight out of those 10 are Right-to-Work states. Yep, it looks like the good employees are moving to the less backward states, along with the jobs.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Parasites.
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Scabs.
They get the benefits of union accomplishments and pay nothing.
The good employees will move on to less backward states.
Is the circus in Austin? You sound like a clown.
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Has nothing to do with right to work. Read the article--most of them are prospering due to the oil and gas boom......and since that has crashed.....what will they do now?
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It's funny that a unionista socialist has a Buck knife, produced in a Right-to-Work state like Idaho in his avatar pic. Ironic, what?
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Ten fastest growing states, as of 2014: http://www.cbsnews.com/media/top-10-fastest-growing-states/2/Eight out of ten are right-to-work states. Yep, the good employees are following the jobs and going to RTW states. Go figure.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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They will not be under the unions labor contract.
Whatever they and the business decide on for compensation is between the employee and the employer. It is certainly not the business of other employees and for damn sure not the business of the union.
They may offer the exact same as the union, maybe more, maybe less. MM, A good many employers in right to work states use the contract signed with the unions to govern their compensation and work rules for all employees. My employer has a stipulation in their contract with the union that requires the union to represent non union employees who are subject to disciplinary action. I stand corrected in your case. It seems your union sold you out.
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Ten states with the slowest growing economies: http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/06/13/americas-slowest-growing-state-economies/4/Six out of ten are union (nonRTW) states. 2013 data for the five worst economies: http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2013/06/12/slowest-growing-states/The three worst were union states. States with worst population growth? http://townhall.com/columnists/mich...endence-on-government-n1780368/page/fullAll of those state, coincidentally I'm sure, have a high dependence on .gov funding and...nearly all of them are union states. The worst are, in order: WV, ME, VT, RI, MI, IL, OH, CT, PA, NH. Of those ten, only Michigan is a RTW state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_growth_rate
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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So is it possible that non dues paying workers at the same job are getting the same representation as the dues paying workers?
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We're about to find out. Before the recent oil-gas boom started, the numbers won't be much different for the RTW/union split. The union states have been losing jobs faster than pounds come off an Ethiopian with dysentery and it's been that way for decades.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Ten states with the slowest growing economies: http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/06/13/americas-slowest-growing-state-economies/4/Six out of ten are union (nonRTW) states. 2013 data for the five worst economies: http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2013/06/12/slowest-growing-states/The three worst were union states. States with worst population growth? http://townhall.com/columnists/mich...endence-on-government-n1780368/page/fullAll of those state, coincidentally I'm sure, have a high dependence on .gov funding and...nearly all of them are union states. The worst are, in order: WV, ME, VT, RI, MI, IL, OH, CT, PA, NH. Of those ten, only Michigan is a RTW state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_growth_rate You're trying to say those links show pros or cons to Unions? Looks like states with the most sunshine and other such factors, current short term up ticks or down turns. Give it a break Stretch.
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