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Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer srwshooter #9673329 03/10/15
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,659 Indiana pointer Campfire Outfitter
pointer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,659 Indiana	Originally Posted by srwshooter i dont think any .224 bullet is large enough for big game animals but plenty of people seem to like them.not for me,but if you like it go for it. I'd be interested to know what you do consider "big" enough in either weight or diameter?

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Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9675473 03/11/15
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,576 grottoes ,virginia,usa srwshooter Campfire Outfitter
srwshooter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,576 grottoes ,virginia,usa	where i hunt deer are up to 200lb gutted and there is a good chance that i may see a 500-700lb bear. i like at least a 120-150gn bullet.with a chance at a once in a lifetime buck or bear i'd just as soon stay well armed. i didn't say you couldn't kill deer with a 22 caliber bullet and i have done that.but i've seen big animals lost to smaller calibers to.

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer srwshooter #9677275 03/11/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,012 Likes: 4 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana
New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,012 Likes: 4 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario	& just as many lost to larger calibers &/or "magnums" too ! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer Dirtfarmer #9677842 03/11/15
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Originally Posted by tex_n_cal would you guys pick 55gr, or 70gr TSX for hogs? It takes a lot of twist for 70 gr. TSX and it's hard to get the speed needed for a Mono-metal to do its stuff. I guess if one had a fast twist .22-250/.220S, but even then, those 70's don't move that fast. And that's one long bullet... I'm not sure why Barnes even made the 70. I have a few if you want to try them. I'm not going to be using 70's, for sure. I've had them for a while, can't remember what I was thinking when I bought them. PM me if you are serious about 70's. I can help... DF Appreciate the info. The rifle is an AR with 1 in 7" nitrided barrel, which is fair to middling with 65 Sierras and not so good with 60 Partitions. I can easily obtain 55 and 70 gr TSX. The TTSX's are hard to find. I think I'm going to load both and see how it shoots. I also have another AR with a 1 in 8 stainless barrel, and I'll probably try the Noslers in it as a backup plan. "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9678105 03/11/15
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Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Use enough gun. To start a topic if a tiny round is enough is just a waste of our time. Tiny tools and rounds cause failure. Use enough gun and you won't have to ask! All guns should be locked up when not in use!

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Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer srwshooter #9678160 03/11/15
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,286 Likes: 2 North Carolina W wilkeshunter Campfire Outfitter
wilkeshunter Campfire Outfitter W Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,286 Likes: 2 North Carolina	Originally Posted by srwshooter i dont think any .224 bullet is large enough for big game animals but plenty of people seem to like them.not for me,but if you like it go for it. I guess you didn't get the memo. We are supposed to sing the praises of the mighty .223. You can't be one of the cool kids unless you do.

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer Savage_99 #9678650 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer ingwe #9678656 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	As Stick just said on another thread, its easy to tell who does the shooting and who doesn't.... Ordinarily those with the most critique for the 22 center fires are those with the least experience with them. Agree with Dirtfarmer...cant figure out why 70 gr. TTSXs were invented....you can get the requisite speed out of the 55s and they will penetrate more than enough for deer. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9678669 03/12/15
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State RWE Campfire Ranger
RWE Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State	Apparently, a 222 remington is enough gun:

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer RWE #9678677 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	Thats what my pard discovered too...at 231 yards.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer RWE #9678699 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	Personally I feel better with a 'bigger' cf .22 but the deuce is not to be despised ... But those tiny little guns wouldn't pass muster on tough stuff, like African Game... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer RWE #9678705 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	A real stunt shooter would shoot his deer two at a time with the deuce........ "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer ingwe #9678716 03/12/15
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Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121	Originally Posted by ingwe Thats what my pard discovered too...at 231 yards.... I like that pic "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9678719 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	Maybe I can get two pigs with one 70gr TSX? Even a lowly 65gr Sierra put this deer down in pretty quick order: of course, the evil black rifle will further annoy Savage 99 Last edited by tex_n_cal; 03/12/15. "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9678725 03/12/15
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RWE Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State	All things considered, when you get laid off, and all you have is a deuce and a couple thousand reloads, you learn WTF your gun can do. Seemed stupid that just because I got back to work I should tank all that experience. Nor that the laws of physics changed just because I was getting a paycheck.

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer tex_n_cal #9678736 03/12/15
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by tex_n_cal Maybe I can get two pigs with one 70gr TSX? Even a lowly 65gr Sierra put this deer down in pretty quick order: of course, the evil black rifle will further annoy Savage 99 And I'll bet thats not even an AI...... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer Savage_99 #9678813 03/12/15
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tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip	Originally Posted by Savage_99 Tiny tools and rounds cause failure. I'm sure you've heard this a lot in your dating life and all IQ tests you've ever taken. Camp is where you make it.

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer tzone #9678839 03/12/15
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Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	The baby gun boys think that when they shoot at a deer and it runs off that they missed again! All guns should be locked up when not in use!

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer Savage_99 #9678878 03/12/15
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State RWE Campfire Ranger
RWE Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State	Originally Posted by Savage_99 The baby gun boys think that when they shoot at a deer and it runs off that they missed again! deer run after they're shot? Since when?

Re: Is the 223 AI enough for deer msuhunter #9678938 03/12/15
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MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,107 South Carolina	Since they found out they were going to be stuffed in the trunk of a Chrysler 300. Even dead deer have standards. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

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