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+1--unless you're a gun writer who HAS to test new stuff.

Of course, if nobody bought factory ammo loaded with new bullets, not much factory ammo would have been sold after the advent of smokeless powder.

Translation: "There is nothing unwitting about the shameless advocacy, even promotion, of the best of things which come along."

If you ever see me at SHOT collecting gun scribe autographs on a T-shirt, it's because I'm getting signatures of the guilty parties involved in my progress along the path to homelessness…………….and what could be a funner way to get there?!

You, of course, get it all free, right?😄

These days, finding one box of ammo is a challenge, let alone 2-5 boxes of the same lot number. Yet another reason to roll your own

Those who choose not to reload are the same people who may buy a particular rifle brand chambered in a cartridge that was recommended by a friend or magazine article without ever doing any research for themselves to see what else might be available. They'll typically buy a 270 or 30/06 because that's what their buddy had success with. Or, they will take the word of a less than knowledgeable person at a gun sales counter who thinks they know because they work there.

The same goes for bullet choices. So, they may choose the bullets you mentioned in commercial loads based on the same input as mentioned & never once give a second thought to what's better....or worse.

In the 70's, Remington offered Bronze Point ammunition. In my hunting circle, if you weren't sporting bronze point loads you needed to get a clue. For commercial loads, Remington Core Lokt's worked without fail every time I pulled the trigger. But, I didn't hunt Texas WT's with a 300 Wby stoked with bronze points so I was not invited back. They didn't approve of my Norma ammo nor my 220 Swift.

A good bullet is a good bullet. Don't matter who makes it.

I'm beginning to wonder if the OP has a dog in this fight.

never seen it, ask WW to send me 10 boxes in 60ish grain for the 5.56 for evaluation and I will let them know.

Edited to add their 150/308 win. HOG HAMMERS don't shoot thru a small pig.

It's not cream skimming (scooping) because Winchester has always been free to offer ammunition of any quality it wanted, and for the most part, decided on the low end. The Fail Safes, which THEY decided to discontinue, is a notable exception. Other companies decided to offer premium stuff, knowing serious folks would be willing to pay for it. Now the big boys are trying to catch up, perhaps a bit late.

Cream skimming is like when public schools are mandated to educate everyone in their districts, but private schools can pick and choose the best and brightest and the most athletic and even offer scholarships to promising students. That's why scholls like DeMatha and Montrose Academy have killer basketball teams AND great scholastic creds, while public schools have to make do with their local base. The telecomm situation some years back was similar, with Baby Bells hobbled by regulations and the mandate to serve everyone, while new outfits were free to "skim" the profitable business market and ignore POTS service to Joe Blow and other ordinary folks.

John, I have to slow down when reading these threads. At first glance I thought you said you had a few hundred Canadians squirreled away. Thinking that would require an awfully large freezer...

Not if you pick small Canadians....

Will we be seeing the Canadian Cookbook soon?

I always planned on buying one of Eileen's cookbooks, but now I think I'll pass.

"Canadian Bacon" just took on a whole new meaning.

You read my mind.

I believe Remington makes Barnes brass, as Remington loads their ammunition and Remington owns Barnes.

Incorrect. Freedom Group owns both Remington and Barnes bullets. Remington does not own Barnes.

Fair question. I DO reload, and I DO reload Interbonds and have Accubonds, Partitions, Rem Corelock Ultra on hand. But this new stuff may prove to be as good, at less bucks. I guess if they don't offer it in components, the point is moor for a handloader, but maybe not for others.

I don't Pappy. Just making conversation, and picking brains.

It's been a while since I checked, but I've noticed that Big Green and Winchester want a pretty price for some of their rather ordinary bullets, i.e. Core-Lokts and Power Points. Since I've never gotten the accuracy from factory ammo that I get from my hand loads, I've never devoted any development time to the bullets they use in it. I haven't hunted with factory ammo since about 1998 or so, and apparently factory ammo has come a long way since then, but I'm in too deep now to go back.

These days, I seem to be using mostly Nosler products, largely because of their good performance, but also because Nosler offers really good support in the form of load data and even a ballistics app that makes it really simple to figure trajectory and energy for their bullets. My recent discovery of the availability of blems at really good prices is icing on the cake. I still buy selected bullets from the other guys, but Nosler gets the majority of my business.

Yeah, Remington especially. They have gone nuts.

I still find Winchester a little cheaper when I look. I am going to end up using only a premium in my son's .243 soo. I have used Hornady IL, with good luck, but that is such a tiny bullet/cal, I will eventually settle on Interbonds, Partitions, or the Rem CL Ultra. I have some of each.

Once it warms up here I will start loading.

If someone could possibly point me in the direction as to where I could purchase Interbonds I would greatly appreciate it since I am no longer able to locate any that I use!