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With all the mil aviation stuff being talked about I thought I post a few photo's I'd scanned to mail to a friend. All are from our 90/91 Teddy Roosevelt Desert Shield/Storm Cruise and thought folks might enjoy. Tanking off an RAF VC-10 over Turkey heading into Iraq on a Provide Comfort mission the precurser to 10 years of wasting gas during Northern and Southern Watch. Gotta love the RAF. Always there when we need them. A gaggle of Tomcats on a Loring ME based 135. I don't have any notes but suspect this was a photo recon package with the mixed bag of jets. One TARPS equiped Tomcat and two escorts along with an EA-6B (me) View from the ECMO 3 seat looking across ECMO 2 of a Prowler on the "Wet One" low level in Saudia Arabia off of the Red Sea. Usually flew these at 200 feet 500 knots if the length and gas allowed. A motley crew. This was after our first day trap in two weeks during Desert Storm. Anyone will smile after getting a day trap after 17 night ones in a row! Great crew of guys (L to R Kerly, Tums, Flash and Pugs) For some reason even though photobucket all shows these normal size they look like they'll turn out a bit large so apologies to the dial-up folks. I used to fly with a camera a lot but after pretty much destroying a Nikon FM and an F-4 I stopped. The vibrations and salt air did them in. Surely the other Aviators on the site have got some good stuff in their files to share while we wait for dove season!
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Thanks for posting the cool picts.
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Thanks for the great pics Sir. And a tip of the hat for your service Sir.
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What T said. Thanks for the pics and the service.
Dave.
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Thanks for the kind words but lots of folks did, and continue to, sacrifice a lot more than I did. Keep your prayers with the guys on the tip of the spear right now and hope they're back in deer camp soon.
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Thanks !!!!
Brings back old memories. Only one question. Why did you squids always use a probe and drogue? Must be somthin about limp d&cks. Seems like the AF pilots never had problem locking up on a nozzle???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Great Pictures <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> And as others have said THANKYOU for your service.
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Pugs
Thanks for the PICS.
My brother was an AE and retired from the Navy as an Senior Chief. His last duty station was at NAS PAX River and his job was going arround to the Defense Contractors making sure they put into the planes what was in the contract and his specialty field was the EA6B and he had to fly back and forth between NAS Pax & NAS Whidbey all the time. in the late 80's before retirement from active duty and then another ten years as a Civil Service Employee doing the same job for the Navy as a Civilian finally retiring and moving back out here in the Spring of 1999.
de 73's Archie - W7ACT
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Great pics, Pugs. Would love to see more, if you care to post 'em.
500 knots at 200 feet? I'd need more than a few "Wet Ones" to clean up the mess. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That is some rugged scenery whizzin' by.
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Why did you squids always use a probe and drogue? Must be somthin about limp d&cks. The Air Force "flying boom" refueling system is similar to a one-chair barber shop. You take a number and wait your turn. It's a fine system for refueling really big planes, like the long-range bombers, because it feeds fuel much faster than a hose & drogue system does. That advantage is mostly lost when refueling smaller aircraft (whether they be Navy or Air Force) because they just aren't built to accept fuel nearly that fast. A large Navy tanker can refuel 2 or 3 fighter-sized aircraft simultaneously, 'cuz they are equipped with multiple hose & drogue units. The Air Force has been slowly adding hose & drogue units to some of their tankers, in addition to the "boom". They're good guys, just a little slow, is all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Seems like the AF pilots never had problem locking up on a nozzle???? ... because with a "flying boom", the tanker operators do most of the work, rather than the pilot of the a/c being fueled. BTW, Air Force drools. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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LOL navy is just an expenseive Taxi service for Aircraft and Marines...God loves us all... thanks for your service Pugs. great photo's. i'm with the others, care to post more??
i'm retired,,,or is it Really tired,,,i forget
retirement is to dang busi for me...
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Brings back old memories. Only one question. Why did you squids always use a probe and drogue? Must be somthin about limp d&cks. Seems like the AF pilots never had problem locking up on a nozzle???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Walker explained the technical reason quite well. Looks to me like we TACAIR guys have the hard probe part.! The reciever in the USAF always has the female part.... hmmm think about that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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A large Navy tanker can refuel 2 or 3 fighter-sized aircraft simultaneously, 'cuz they are equipped with multiple hose & drogue units. The Air Force has been slowly adding hose & drogue units to some of their tankers, in addition to the "boom". They're good guys, just a little slow, is all. Idono big boy, FB-111's, F-15's, F16's and even the SR-71 refueled without the extra appendage hanging off the boom. We had to stow a drogue onboard our KC-135 every time we took it TDY. It didn't take long to install it on the boom, ya never knew when we'd have to pass some gas to them their navy throttlejockies. Cool picture of the KC with fan engines. In my day we had turbojet's. Only the newer EC-135's and the RC-135's had fans. Even burning water we most likely had 2/3's the thrust of the fans provide. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
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I don't know but it's been said, Air Force wings are made of lead.
I do know 'cause I been told, Navy wings are made of gold.
A long time ago In a land far away
There was no more awesome sight than seeing a Navy or Marine F-4 dive INTO the vally to lay napalm. The AF zoomies seemed to do it less accuratly from ridge level. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Cannon Fodder vs Self Preservation.
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
Old cat turd!
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I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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WHOOO hey . I though bouncing titties weren't allowed on this family site! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
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Idono big boy, FB-111's, F-15's, F16's and even the SR-71 refueled without the extra appendage hanging off the boom. Maybe so, but still only one a/c at a time. That just don't git 'er done. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Cool picture of the KC with fan engines. In my day we had turbojet's. Only the newer EC-135's and the RC-135's had fans. Even burning water we most likely had 2/3's the thrust of the fans provide. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> At that point there was a mix as not all of them had been re-engined so you never knew what you were pulling up to and at night you maybe never did. Huge mix of tankers at the time so your take could have been off a 135 or a KC-10, a RAF VC-10 or Victor, a RCAF 707 with wingtip drogues or if you were just taking 3000 lbs or so off an S-3 or a KA-6D. Far as I'm concerned the 135 is the most important plane in the USAF! Thanks for passing all the gas AJ!
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Thanks for passing all the gas AJ!
that almost to easy...thanks to all who served....God bless you
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