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When the Amendment in question does not have specific definitions for a term in question, check as to whether the term has been defined by case law under another Amendment.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

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Originally Posted by curdog4570
"How about if we amend that statement to include "Without Permission"... ?"

No........ the article claims they are asking County Commissioners in Texas to "invite" them. I don't know any Counties that own enough property to be of any use to the exercise. That seems to mean the Commissioners would give them permission to use private land in the County, thereby circumventing the owner.

But, since Commissioners have to run for office every four years, that might not fly.


They'll play hell.

No tinhorn county commissioner has the right to give permissions for anyone to enter my private property.

I think they had a meeting and were told that this operation is coming to the county, and hope they will be welcomed, and will keep every county agency apprised of the situation.

The day some tinhorn politician gives the military permission to enter private land, and do what they want is the day the civil war starts. At least it would on my ranch. wink


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
" worth the paper it was written on. "

And THAT would stop the Feds... ?


Like Treaties????


We can't even call him "The Great White Father in Washington" anymore... 'Cause he ain't. smile


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Feds can't enter any county for such exercises - legally - without the Sheriff's permission, right?


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Feds can't enter any county for such exercises - legally - without the Sheriff's permission, right?


They can on federal lands. Like BLM, National Forest or such.

There is also this bullschidt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

Border Patrol (Feds) can enter private property with 100 miles of the border. You can not deny them access.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Feds can't enter any county for such exercises - legally - without the Sheriff's permission, right?


I thought the county judge had something to do with that.


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And, who passed that border bill?

If they want to play, let them play on Federale land. Otherwise, piss off.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by 4ager
And, who passed that border bill?

If they want to play, let them play on Federale land. Otherwise, piss off.


They have enough public land to play with.

That is why I'm confused about the private land and 'Texas' issue. Especially the areas in Texas they named. I live right between two of the towns mentioned specifically in the govt. press release.


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Party at 'bbar's!


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Ricky, this is "Third amendment blues" by my son as part of his songwriting odyssey...

[video:youtube]DlyTo2TykCk[/video] DlyTo2TykCk


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I certainly have a soft spot for the boys in green, but I don't let the Robin Sage guys play on my property.

We got a whole National Forest within a couple clicks they can use.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
Party at 'bbar's!


Come on down! laugh


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Man I'd be there tonight Barry!!!! Only if to get away!!!!!


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Have their round haunches gored."

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Sounds like annual National Guard training to me.

Been there, done that. Sometimes they give it fancy name to get more money from the Feds, sometimes they don't.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by PVT
Our ranch is on the western edge of the circled area. During Iraqi freedom, they were there flying over all the time. Ft Hood, one of the largest military installations in the world is in the area. Lots of military bases in Utah as well.


There used to be some NOE lanes just outside of Ft. Hood. I have been on a couple of them back in 1990 and 1991.
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If they start stirring up my livestock, they'll find out that NM is not "leaning hostile" - I'll be decidedly hostile!
Air Force tore up a windmill wheel once (is backblast the proper term?) and when I asked, I was told they'd pay upon me telling them the offending plane's serial number.


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I hope obama paid off the drug cartels so
they don't shoot the [bleep] out of 'em
[bleep]' around down here, cause the cartels
use real bullets.

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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Ricky, this is "Third amendment blues" by my son as part of his songwriting odyssey...

[video:youtube]DlyTo2TykCk[/video] DlyTo2TykCk
Great video and song, Gene. Your son has a good voice and is quite talented. Thanks for posting that!


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Its called training.


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Rockinbar, I am not sure you are right on the border patrol, coming on private land with out owners's ok, We deal with the border patrol every day here on the ranch, and they cannot come on this ranch without calling me first.so far this year they have picked up 1800 illegals and drug dealers here. rio7

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