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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
If there's a market for the windplex, fine. But what chaps my ass is the new reticles are replacing the standard duplex, instead of being an additional option.

It's hard to believe they'd go whole hog with the windplex and quit making the duplex.

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
If there's a market for the windplex, fine. But what chaps my ass is the new reticles are replacing the standard duplex, instead of being an additional option.


Totally agree with that. Should be an option. About like the ridiculousness of not offering a duplex reticle in the FX3 6x42/matte version. Makes no sense.


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Thinking that in the near future you will see the Windplex on closeout. I can't imagine the use for that design - especially to replace a duplex.
In addition to - maybe, as a replacement - not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
It's hard to believe they'd go whole hog with the windplex and quit making the duplex.


To clarify, my earlier comments about the windplex replacing the standard duplex were specific to the VX-2 3-9x40mm CDS, as that's what we were discussing. I doubt they're replacing all the duplexes with windplexes. Here's a link to the aforementioned VX-2, showing only one reticle option, the windplex.

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I'm pretty sure that with regards to the 2015 models, you will not be able to buy a VX2 or VX3 CDS model without the windplex......no duplex anymore. Ridiculous.


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Well, now is the time to pick up a VX-2 3-9x40 CDS with std. Duplex, two or three if they're going to become extinct.

Check with Cabelas and MidwayUSA as noted by other posters. Prices are really right.

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JG - no slam on companies making a profit, but I personally see it as a gimmick feature that offers little to no value for many hunters and situations. I agree with the above posts on "addition" vs replacement.

IMHO every model should have a standard duplex option. Regardless of finish, power etc.

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"I'm pretty sure that with regards to the 2015 models, you will not be able to buy a VX2 or VX3 CDS model without the windplex......no duplex anymore. Ridiculous.

JG - if true, it defies logic IMO and I will not buy one. Surely not to have to pay for a reticle change so if that's there motive to heck with them.

I have no issue with a ranging reticle like a mil dot having marks on vertical as well, but Windage only? Not for me. I could run a LRD for quick holdover but I have yet to need a windplex or a wind meter. Just me and how I hunt.


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I won't buy one either 65. I have no use for hashes, dots, etc.


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No need for a solid point of reference for windage yet you have CDS and M1 dials for elevation?

Seems like holding for wind and dialing elevation is a good idea. It works a whole lot better for me than guessing how far to hold left or right.

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Originally Posted by 65BR
JG - no slam on companies making a profit, but I personally see it as a gimmick feature that offers little to no value for many hunters and situations. I agree with the above posts on "addition" vs replacement.

IMHO every model should have a standard duplex option. Regardless of finish, power etc.


How about (GASP!) a crosshair? I picked up an old Mauser last Summer with a really old Weaver 4x and that crosshair looks pretty good.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Well, now is the time to pick up a VX-2 3-9x40 CDS with std. Duplex, two or three if they're going to become extinct.

Check with Cabelas and MidwayUSA as noted by other posters. Prices are really right.

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Yea, the $250 VX-2 3-9x40 was too good to pass up so I've got one waiting on me at the post office right now. I'm not too keen on the windplex either, at least on a big game rifle. I'd rather have just a straight duplex & the price was too good to pass on.

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TWR - on the surface yes. Yet not everyone hunts in windy areas - and distance matters. Drop at a given range is a constant assuming good SD. Yet wind is often variable. No doubt if you have a wind meter and shooting in bad conditions and long ranges a windage turret can be put to use.

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Originally Posted by ringworm
I'm predicting a fairly short run of this abortion.
Like most things that appeal to "the consumers" , they are unable to be used to the fullest extent because the manufacture assumes to much.
In this case leupold is assuming that the person using the reticle can ...
A estimate distance with any degree of acucuracy in the field
B estimate wind speed with any degree of accuracy in the field
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C do both on the amount of time required to construct a profile of angle, speed, and distance to enable any solid hit at a distance you'd need to account for wind.
Its a 3 position sunroof.
The scopes are markets as hunting scopes.
Most hunting, the vast majority, done in this country is deer hunting.
The vast majority of deer are killed at below 200 yards and, possibly, better than 75% killed below 100 yards.
But I applause the effort to build a quality , robust product with a useless feature.
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This is one of those posts where it is safe to assume that if Leupolds were to walk on water, somebody would reply "yeah, that's because they can't swim"...


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that cracked me up Jorge.

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That is funny, shoot out past 400 yards much and you'll know wind is just as important as distance.

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Turn the scope in the rings and use them for elevation !!


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