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I haven't contradicted myself at all. I simply said that God doesn't say no to healing. If you don't receive healing it's not because God is telling you no. Everything you receive from God is through faith. How can you even have faith for something if you aren't even sure if God wants you to have it?

What would have become of the woman with the issue of blood if she had simply said, I'll be healed if God wants me to and not if he doesn't? What if she had said, God said no and doesn't want me healed because in all these years, I still haven't been healed?



There are many many scriptures that declare God's will for healing. God wants you healed. In other areas of prayer where we aren't sure of God's will, you may very well get a no answer. For instance,God do you want me to take this job, or marry this woman.Personally, i have rarely had an audible to me answer in these areas. many times I am simply guided by the Holy Spirit to follow my peace. I may have a check in my spirit about a situation or decision or I may feel complete peace about it.

Why would Jesus pay such an awesome price to provide something for you and then deny you the very thing he paid for?

I'll tell you what's insane. I suffered and died to provide something for my children and they still didn't know if I wanted them to have it! That's insanity!

Prayer.....first of all it's any form of communication with our father and expresses our faith to Him. A necessity to form a ever growing relationship.
Answers....I get a yes, sometimes a no and many times a not now, I have something better around the corner.
Healing...many have been healed physically and spiritually (not necessarily both at the same time) before our eyes, many have not. Some will continue to be healed physically and spiritually, some will not but ALL will be healed of any and all eventually if they believe what Christ says....

R_H_Clark,



You are truly irrational.



"What if" is for grammar school children.

No, it's a way to understand why some don't receive their healing and some do if you weren't already too sure of yourself to learn something.

You need to read the book, And These Signs Will Follow. Then get back to me.

I read the Bible, it's the word of God not man.

Scott F,

It was addressed to R_H_Clark who seems to think he is the only one to exercise faith, or who can learn. The book has lots of examples of faith in action.

You are almost as good as Ringman at twisting the Word of God.

BTW. Have been Spirit filled for well over thirty years.

That's a very hurtful statement to me. I do my very best to interpret scripture so that the interpretation agrees with all other scripture.

The scripture it'self tells you that Paul's thorn was a messenger sent from Satan to buffet him. Even so there is much debate among clergy as to what physical infirmity the "thorn" was. It's extremely hard to let go of religious tradition.

R_H_Clark,



I always thought you did your best to stay away from Scripture and use commentaries.

"That's a very hurtful statement to me. I do my very best to interpret scripture so that the interpretation agrees with all other scripture.

The scripture it'self tells you that Paul's thorn was a messenger sent from Satan to buffet him. Even so there is much debate among clergy as to what physical infirmity the "thorn" was. It's extremely hard to let go of religious tradition."

I don't have any idea where you find that. It is very plain that Paul's eyesight was poor. That, I'm sure, was his thorn.

I find it in the verse it'self.
2 Corinthians 12:7-10King James Version (KJV)

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.


Here is the truth if you can look past your traditional teachings to receive it.
http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/pauls_thorn

This is what we are to learn from Paul's "thorn". What it might be is quite immaterial but to understand we all have them.

"Raising the dead

Wommack teaches that human beings, by the authority of Christ and the empowerment of the Holy Spirit, can miraculously heal and raise people from the dead; and he states on his website and in his books that his younger son, Peter, was raised from the dead by the power of God on March 4, 2001.[8] "My own son was raised up after being dead for five hours," Wommack said.[8] He has also said, "I've personally seen three people raised from the dead, including my own son. He'd been dead for almost five hours, and had already turned black. His toe was tagged and he was lying on a slab in the hospital morgue."[9]
Miracles and healings

Wommack states he has witnessed uncountable miracles and healings:

"Although many people would like to see blind eyes and deaf ears opened, terminal diseases healed, the dead raised, and financial blessings manifest the way I have (by God's grace), they're not willing to spend the time yielding to and fellowshipping with the Lord in His Word, prayer, and obedience."[10]

"I don't claim to have 'arrived' concerning prayer, but I've definitely left! I regularly see miracles of every kind happen in my life and ministry. My own son was raised up after being dead for five hours. I've seen many blind eyes and deaf ears opened, not to mention all of the cancers healed, people coming out of wheelchairs, and demons cast out."[8]

Now I understand where you are coming from. Try getting back to God's Word and test this guy's teaching against what the truth is.

I can top one of his silly stories as I was dead for 36 years but Jesus the Christ gave me eternal life.

Let us know what morgue his son was in.

Paul's thorn was the true disciples of Jesus.

They regarded him as a fake who never met Jesus.

Which, of course, was true on both counts.

He was a first-century religious charlatan.

Kind of the Pat Robertson of his day.

I can't confirm anything Wommack has seen. I didn't see it myself but I have no reason to doubt it based on the Word of God.It really is sad that you have been taught to believe miracles,signs and wonders are passed away.There is nothing in the Word that says God doesn't perform miracles today,quite the opposite in fact.

What hospital morgue was his son in?

I don't know. Why don't you contact him and ask him? Even if he is lying about the whole thing it doesn't mean that God doesn't perform miracles today.

I don't base my belief in God or his word on what I can see and prove.

Well, apparently now I'm answering myself.LOL I meant to edit instead.