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Quite to the contrary. Our eyes never "pull in" light. And, if anything, aging eyes will benefit even more from more light (but it's true, they'll never be as good as they were when they were better.)
This is what my old eyes are telling me. Good glass helps a lot more now than it used to.
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Its your money....go nuts.
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Had a small ship come in in 1998 and applied the money to a Schmidt and Bender Klassic w/#4 reticle. I feel it to be the best hunting scope ever made. Been enjoying now going on 20years and ain't dead yet. powdr
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My favorite hunting scope and the last one I would sell is my Zeiss Diavari Victory 2.5-10x42. WHY they stopped making this one is beyond me; if you see one under $1k, BUY IT.
But to further the chatter about the viability of "low light " scopes; my very "mature" eyes can clearly see the difference at last light between any of my other "Alpha" glass products and my Swarovski PH8x56. I can't "splain" it; I just know what I see.
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The quality of a scope is not just about quality of the glass, but I'd say SB wins both.
Folks have a lot of opinions about optics, but I would bet that if you talked to anyone that owns a SB, they would regard any other scope choice as a step down.
It ain't all burritos and strippers my friends...
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Under 10x, I'll cast a vote for the S&B Zenith. I've not had the pleasure of handling or using the new S&B Stratos. And, at $2800, I likely won't.
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This beauty right here!!!!! LOL BSA STS 6-24x44IR Side Big Wheel Focus Multi-purpose Twist-Cap Riflescope
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I wouldn't be surprised to see S&B and Nightforce top most lists.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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For me, hunting in BC, weight is always a concern; after maybe 75 scopes over 50+ years, I am now favouring Swaro Z3-3x9s on my hunting rifles.
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The quality of a scope is not just about quality of the glass, but I'd say SB wins both.
Folks have a lot of opinions about optics, but I would bet that if you talked to anyone that owns a SB, they would regard any other scope choice as a step down. I have both (as well as most of those listed), and no, I do not believe that the S&B is tops (though they are very good). Mechanical function means more than anything and one is clearly at the top in that regard. Bob, As usual you are spot on.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see S&B and Nightforce top most lists. Prolly wouldn't see a whole bunch of NF scopes on top of Echols Classics though............ The S&B would most likely be a common sighting though Bob (along with a few guys that ran out of money and put a Leupold on board).......
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Why am I not shocked by that. I thought you were growing fond of the Bushnell LRHS ? How does that compare mechanically to a S&B PM ?
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RD I might be one of those guys who ran out of money. But judging from some of the gear I see pictures of on here, some of us could scrape the barrel bottom and come up with the chedda for a S&B, I bet....at least ONE!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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RD I might be one of those guys who ran out of money. But judging from some of the gear I see pictures of on here, some of us could scrape the barrel bottom and come up with the chedda for a S&B, I bet....at least ONE! Hey, I was counting on you to procure the Stratos, then sell to me later at a greatly reduced rate.
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How do you like the March scopes and what models do they compare with ?
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Scott hate to blow holes in your plans but ......we are both SOL!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Why are we still discussing this when Steelhead already got it right?
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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