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How about that union protection for workers? What a joke, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/20/teamsters-spend-big-on-politics-while-preparing-to/The Teamsters have begun informing retirees and current workers that their pension benefits may soon be cut, the final ironic twist to a lobbying campaign that saw the union spend its own members’ dollars to win the right to shrink their retirement pay.
The somber notifications began going out from the Teamsters Central States Health and Welfare Pension Fund this spring, a decision that could ultimately affect 410,000 current pension participants and a total of more than 10 million U.S. workers nationwide. Cuts could begin as early as next year.
The cuts were made possible after the lame-duck Congress late last year passed the Multiemployer Pension Reform Act (MPRA), enabling any multiemployer pension fund to cut benefits to workers and current retirees if the plan is underfunded by at least 20 percent.
Multiemployer pension funds are commonly used by big unions and are maintained by one more or more collective bargaining agreements while operating under a board of trustees.
The Teamsters pension fund has been struggling with severe shortages for years, even as the union continued to pour millions of dollars into political election efforts and Washington lobbying.
In 2014 alone, the union and its affiliates spent nearly $5.9 million on lobbying and political contributions, and one of its main legislative targets was passage of the pension reform law that finally gave it the right to start reducing benefits, according to the lobbying reports it filed with Congress.
The union has already poured another $397,000 into Washington lobbying this year.
The letters that began going out to pensioners last month painted a bleak future for the Teamsters pension fund, suggesting Washington, and not the union, was to blame.
“Like many of our nation’s multiemployer pension funds, Central States Pension Fund has become severely underfunded and is headed toward financial failure if we don’t take immediate, decisive action,” said a CSPF letter dated April 8.
“Baby Boomers are retiring in record numbers and the union workforce has been steadily declining for years. As a result, the Fund currently has more than three times as many retirees as active members — so, fewer contributions are coming in than benefits being paid out. To put this into perspective, for every $3.46 that the Fund pays out in pension benefits, only $1 is collected from contributing employers, which results in a $2 billion annual shortfall. Clearly, that math will never work,” the letter said.
President Obama signed the MPRA into law in December after a lame-duck Democrat-run Senate reached a deal to get the law through both chambers of Congress.
Under the new law, the group hardest hit by reductions likely would be current workers and retirees under the age of 75. The most vulnerable retirees over the age of 80 and those with disabilities would continue to receive full benefits, and proposed benefit reductions for those aged 75 to 80 would be done on a sliding scale.
Any rescue plan proposed by the Teamsters pension fund trustees would have to be approved by the U.S. government. If the pension fund becomes insolvent, beneficiaries would only receive fractional payouts from the government’s Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.
The April 8 letter blamed Congress, saying the fact that MPRA wasn’t passed until December meant there was no legal remedy in place that allowed the Teamsters pension fund “to develop a rescue plan from going broke.”
The CSPF says pension cuts are necessary to save the Fund, but that it is too early to tell how dramatic any potential cuts will be.
lots more info on the link.
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Congress late last year passed the Multiemployer Pension Reform Act (MPRA), enabling any multiemployer pension fund to cut benefits to workers and current retirees if the plan is underfunded by at least 20 percent.
Well what are you expecting? The country right now is being led on an anti-union jihad, and union participation is shrinking, what choice do they have? The only employees in the trades with a decent retirement plan, they must be dealt with.
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own
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Why would anyone rely on a union consortium to garner a retirement? My union is pretty useless. But, I pay my dues because others barter for the benefits that I enjoy.
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I'd bet $$$ the cuts don't apply to the union's administrators though.
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own No, the GOP has convinced people that a decent wage with retirement and health is exorbitant. The unions are not the ones recruiting foreigners to come here to cut wages and increase profits of a company that just reported record profits.
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Well I was a Teamster for 37 years, Western Conference, retired. We are currently funded at 89%. I also have an IRA and CD, plus a fair cash savings. While I do agree that some unions have been greedy, not all. 40 years ago no one even knew what an IRA was If this were to happen here it would hurt me but I would not starve.
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Obama is also against unions, that should tell you something.
Elaborate?
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Karma is a cast iron bitch. These saps paid dues that was then used to lobby congress to cut their union benefits. ...the final ironic twist to a lobbying campaign that saw the union spend its own members’ dollars to win the right to shrink their retirement pay.
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Time for another Teamster Strike.
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own No, the GOP has convinced people that a decent wage with retirement and health is exorbitant. The unions are not the ones recruiting foreigners to come here to cut wages and increase profits of a company that just reported record profits. BS...I wish I would have got out of the carpenters union long before I did. Have much better insurance, retirement, vacation etc. now. And I don't even have to pay to work.
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own No, the GOP has convinced people that a decent wage with retirement and health is exorbitant. The unions are not the ones recruiting foreigners to come here to cut wages and increase profits of a company that just reported record profits. BS...I wish I would have got out of the carpenters union long before I did. Have much better insurance, retirement, vacation etc. now. And I don't even have to pay to work. Bullshitt
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own No, the GOP has convinced people that a decent wage with retirement and health is exorbitant. The unions are not the ones recruiting foreigners to come here to cut wages and increase profits of a company that just reported record profits. BS...I wish I would have got out of the carpenters union long before I did. Have much better insurance, retirement, vacation etc. now. And I don't even have to pay to work. Bullshitt Have another glass, maybe cherry this time.
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Teamsters Western Conference is currently funded at 90.7%, and expected to go up to 91.4% in 2015. More [bleep] off the wall scare tactics...
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Congress late last year passed the Multiemployer Pension Reform Act (MPRA), enabling any multiemployer pension fund to cut benefits to workers and current retirees if the plan is underfunded by at least 20 percent.
Well what are you expecting? The country right now is being led on an anti-union jihad, and union participation is shrinking, what choice do they have? The only employees in the trades with a decent retirement plan, they must be dealt with. The choice they had was not to steal from it's members. Pensions are not being shrunk because membership is down, but that union leadership thought they were like the government with the ability to print money, and stole from their membership, just like the government steals from all of us.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own No, the GOP has convinced people that a decent wage with retirement and health is exorbitant. The unions are not the ones recruiting foreigners to come here to cut wages and increase profits of a company that just reported record profits. BS...I wish I would have got out of the carpenters union long before I did. Have much better insurance, retirement, vacation etc. now. And I don't even have to pay to work. Bullshitt Ole Barks-A-Lot. You are one dumb fugger when it comes to unions. Otherwise, you're an ok guy. You mention republicans then read where and when the congress passed this and your boy, bammy, signed it? You did read that? You speak of bullschitt when you're standing in it.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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Obama is also against unions, that should tell you something.
Elaborate? He's not against SEIU.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Congress late last year passed the Multiemployer Pension Reform Act (MPRA), enabling any multiemployer pension fund to cut benefits to workers and current retirees if the plan is underfunded by at least 20 percent.
Well what are you expecting? The country right now is being led on an anti-union jihad, and union participation is shrinking, what choice do they have? The only employees in the trades with a decent retirement plan, they must be dealt with. The choice they had was not to steal from it's members. Pensions are not being shrunk because membership is down, but that union leadership thought they were like the government with the ability to print money, and stole from their membership, just like the government steals from all of us. Wait, are you equating "sealing" with union dues? Because last I heard anyone caught stealing was sent to prison, even Teamster officials. So explain "stealing", you think unions can run without collecting dues? Nobody has to pay dues, they can move on and work for less and save the money they pay in dues. I pay dues, that is my choice, I don't feel like I am being stole from. Pick up any issue of a Teamster magazine and turn to the back, they list all the Teamster officials charged with crime.
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Unions have kinda cut their own greedy throats all on their own The bottom line...
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Politically, the unions have no one nat'l party to turn to. They just keep pumping members' dues money to the demos and are only hoping for the best, e.g., like the auto bailouts. Every now and then, the demos will throw them a little dry bone to gnaw on but the die is cast for them and the handwriting is on the wall. Geo-economics has put ALL hourly labor under the gun and competition is worldwide. That will NEVER change from this point, forward.
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