What do you think about Dickinson ?
Any others in that under1500.00 range ?

TIA

Used ones are out ther? What are you using it for? Hunting, skeet, teaching a kid, waterfowl? Have an older Savage/ Stevens in excellent shape if interested. Fixed chokes.

Not much until they prove they will be around for the long run.

Thinking of using it on Chukars.
Just a lite cool little shotgun

There’s a Benelli lite 20 for a grand on the classified.
Just thinking a side by side has more classic appeal ?

have a Yildiz 20 ga SxS I'd sell you. Very pretty little gun, only available at academy sports.

What I have seen of them there isn't much to like.

I just bought a Dickinson 28 ga. Actually, my wife bought it for my 50th birthday. (She’s a keeper!) Seems real nice for the money. Only complaint I have is the triggers seem a little heavy. Good value. We are still in the grip of winter here and I haven’t shot it yet.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/858823817

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/858183319

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/857259522

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/850236148

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/850644619

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/847827891

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/852817284

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/852214838

Lots and lots of options in 20 ga. I think the old SKBs (Japan) were good and new ones are made in the same factory as the Dickinsons. Some nice used Spanish and Italian guns as well.

Thanks, I know zero about side by sides.
I won’t put a lot of rounds through one but don’t want junk.
Some particular brands would help my search.
Thanks for the info.

New or used?

You are showing him guns with starting bids at the top end of what he wants to pay.

Centrmass,

Here is the the reality.

The Diskinson isn’t a bad SxS. I have seen a couple with some nice wood, but wood is mostly lipstick. They have a long way to go before they prove themselves. Other than that, they haven’t been pounded on enough to have any kind of basis to recommend them.

Those SKB’s are fine SxS’s that are proven and certain ones are exceptional.

That being said most good SxS and O/U’s will not be found for $1500.

If you have to have one now, then those SKB’s as mentioned are excellent buys. If you willing to wait and research SxS’’s and inquire, read and handle a few, then you may want to save and get exactly what you want. Some of the better Spanish examples are as well made as most of the British shotguns and in fact are extremely popular over there. Good used ones can be found, and a friend has just bought a couple older Urgartecha examples in the $2500 range. Relatively plane, but solid, well made and proven.

Fit and finish are rough in my opinion. I would go the SKB route long before the Dickinson.

Thinking a Browning BSS or a FAIR Iside.........

Have you looked at CZs? Haven't seen one in person, but some reviews have been pretty good, in general, on their Turkish doubles.

You may want to take some time, maybe make a trip to a well-stocked store so you can check them out first-hand. Fit means a LOT. Even a really good gun will cause you grief if you can't hit with it. Been there.

The BSS is another. Very well made, but for a field gun they are heavy and not all that lively. The 12’s have found a home with some sporting clay shooters who like the SxS events.

I have plenty of time before fall.
This is the kind of info I was hoping for.

What people like, don’t like and why.

When you say Spanish Guns could you name a few?
I’ll look online for reviews and current prices.

Thanks again.

AyA, Grulla, Arrieta, Urgartecha....

I would look at F.A.I.R. Or AYA. Been happy with my FAIR o/u. Wish it had better wood but that’s luck of the draw

Spend the money on a quality SXS,or buy a pump or auto.

I would buy an old classic American field grade. As you get the money you can get it cleaned up pretty nice.

If I didn`t have a Montefeltro, I would be all over the ultra light.
Go for it !!

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...fs-benelli-ultralight-20-ga#Post14579363

I wouldn't part with my little SKB 100 for love or money.It ain't the prettiest gun out there,but I shoot it better than anything else and it's a joy to carry afield.

Thinking a Lion Country Ugartechea would fill the bill. My favorite Dove gun.

Wouldn't be a bad choice

My Dad has a Italian Charles Daly like this one that he got in the late 60's and hasn't had a problem with it. He hunted with it in eastern Washington for decades.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/851911428

I have a 1961 Beretta Silver Hawk that I got in 1987 that I still use today. I got it for $175 which seems ridiculous looking back.

If you keep your eye out you'll find something.

I think that the first one in the list I sent, the Ithica, is on “old” SKB, which a number of the members are recommending. Current bid is $1125.

The old SKBs were made in Japan, as I recall. That company also made the Weatherby Athen and Orion O/U shotguns for quite a while. I have two the OUs and like them a lot. The “new” SKBs are made in Turkey by the same company that makes the Dickinsons.

I am no expert on SxS shotguns. If there is one you are seriously considering, I would run a search over at www.shotgunworld.com to see if the experts there have any opinions on the exact model.

I have a Ithaca 200 E I’ve been using for years. For the money it’s hard to beat. You can find them used on Gunbroker. I also have a Montefeltro. It’s a toss up to which one I grab. Hasbeen

I almost bit on one of their used Grulla's that was on consignment when I was last over there, and the asking price was a steal. Said I would think about it and get back with them. They said make an offer, so there was more room. I waited too long....

Last time I checked their used stock was getting low. However, if one keeps checking they will have some nice ones come late summer at most....

Grulla makes some absolute eye-popping guns !!!!! Just a bit more spendy than I'm willing to bite on.

I have a 1961 Beretta Silver Hawk that I got in 1987 that I still use today. I got it for $175 which seems ridiculous looking back.


Yes this is a ridiculous steal even in 1987, lucky you.

This one was a popper, like new and around 45% below new. If one tired of it, they should be able to come back with all the same dollars in their pocket.

Addition: Why didn’t I buy it? Answer, I thought it was too nice for what I do. The wood was stunning and the engraving better than nice. Stupid me....

A good friend of mine was out at LCS a few weeks ago. I happened to stop by his place, by chance, that evening. He had picked up a new-ish Rizzini 20 O/U and a well used but well kept plain Jane Zoli that morning. He's ready to truck back out there and take me with him. I can see me getting in big, BIG trouble just walking through their doors. Especially when I'm two Model 21's in the red for the year 2020, already...…...…..

And THEN.........…….there's Cove Creek...……………….. Aye, yi, yi………...… !!

For a couple years I’ve been meaning to go see Cove Creek on a nasty day when I want out.

The people at Lion Country have always been top shelf. Even after ownership changed hands. They especially know what is going on with hunting Dog equipment.

Both are on my "to do" list. I just need to let a couple new side-by-sides blow over for a while...…………...

Get the urge to spend some loose cash or try a full auto, this is your place....Hit the gallery button....


https://keystoneshootingcenter.com/about-us/gallery



Another close by that can separate one from some of their retirement security....


https://elite-shotguns.com/shotguns-for-sale/

Oh, yeah...……............……. Elite appears to be way too close......……

Looks to be about spitting distance from where we got our granite. Good thing I was unaware at that time...……...

I found an interesting French gun but it’s stocked very short lop.
A Fracaise Ideal 2. Very cool
Still looking.

Not so cool when a repair is needed....

Unlike the Spanish guns where there are Smiths here who work on them....

Arrrgggg..........................6 more years to retirement and you guys post websites that are very close to me!!!

Don't worry everything on the web is close to all of us. Just a few keyboard strokes away!

Having owned a bunch of sxs's over the years the Ithaca/SKB 100/200 are pretty nice shotguns if you don't mind a single trigger sxs. I sold off all my single trigger sxs's and have replaced them with two trigger guns. I have a two trigger CZ Bobwhite(20ga) is a nice shotgun but the triggers can be heavy and need work. Having choke tubes and being steel safe it is a pretty good rig, I've killed a bunch of ducks and a few grouse and woodcock with mine. Now it only goes out for high volume steel shooting. I found a nice little Bernardelli sxs and at 5 lb 15 oz for an all steel and wood 12ga it is a pleasure to hunt with and I shoot 7/8th and 1 oz loads out of it.

Here are a couple more strokes to look at....


https://www.vfiguns.com/


MCH says he has a Abbiatico & Salvinelli that I can use until I tire of it....

MCH says he has a Abbiatico & Salvinelli that I can use until I tire of it....

It is a matched pair of course you can use one for as long as you want buddy.

Ahhh thanks!!!!

I just started reloading shotgun shells and want to try out some hot loads for spring Turkey

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As this will be a gun for wild chukars, get a Savage/Stevens 311 or the like. When (not IF) you slip and break the stock, you will be able to buy at least two replacement guns for the price of a new stock for the other guns mentioned. 😀

Mind you, this is from someone who is not much of a fan of SxS guns. I've owned and/or used Merkel, LeFever, Browning, Elsie's, SKB, Uggies, and couple others along with several drillings. None have held my interest and I am now down to a 12 ga Stoeger coach gun for cowboy action shooting, a pair of Savage 311s in 16 and 20 ga, and a 12 ga Winchester 24. The Stoeger is the only one I wish to keep, the others I am stuck with as no one has met my modest prices yet.

I will say I am keeping my eyes open for a sleeper SxS sold by Sears. The 433-512370 was made by AyA and and generally sells for a pittance compared to an AyA marked gun. I saw one once but someone recognized what it was before I did and the gun was gone in the several minutes it took me to find the info I needed at the bookstore a couple shops down (no wireless Internet connection back then). As I recall, it was priced a sawbuck or two above a 311. I've seen several in the hands of others and they were all gleeful of the price they paid. Just another suggestion.

Probably wanna get a couple of three colors of Krylon and camo that gun up so's them turkey birds don't spy it.......all shiny and such.......

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Rattle Can

Ithaca SKB's are solid choices, if they fit. I would look for something that fits me first, and look at the price tag later. No need to spend even less than the budgeted amount of money if the gun doesn't shoot well for you. Save up and get something that fits. If we still had wild quail in eastern NC, I'd have a 20 gauge Fox Sterlingworth. The 12's fit me perfectly and the 20's I've handled felt even better.

PM sent.

I've owned 6 SKBs over the years. two O/Us & four SxSs. They are fine shotguns, as good as any BSS but lighter.

All the SxSs were 20s except one 12. The best 20 of the bunch is the one I own now. M-100 with 28" bbl. Was choked F/M but was reamed to IC/M. The handling is perfect and better than the clubby 25" ones. I like the M-100 better than the M-200E as it comes with a splinter forend as opposed to the beaver style on the 200. Also the lower grade M-100 does not have ejectors which is better for me. I only wish they came with double triggers.

It’s tough to be a prol and have fine guns’ taste. 🤪🙂

Edit: that is, speaking for myself.

These are all great, and I wouldn't be afraid of the FAIR, which you can buy new for under $1500 unless prices have gone up.

I have a Dickinson 20ga. I’ve had it for a year exactly. In that time it hasn’t given me an ounce of trouble. I use it for informal skeet, preserve birds and rabbit hunting. I’m far from a SXS expert, but the overall opinion of the Dickinson guns is much higher than that of the other Turkish guns.

I have 2 buddies that grouse hunt religiously and both run Dickinson 16s. No complaints from either of them. If you’re looking to get into the SXS game and don’t wanna drop 2-3k. I don’t think you would regret the Dickinson.

Here’s a few random shots of mine.

I’m not familiar with those guns — good looking in the pic’s. Can you give more details? Thanks. I can’t get to the models on their website for some reason.

The Dickinsons are the sleepers in the sxs market today. Best yet from Turkey and they are holding up well. I have several friends and a couple clients who have them and I’ve seen and heard nothing but good. Shot a couple as well.

The barrels are very high quality (light weight, properly struck, bored true and barrels converge as they should. The guns are well fitted up, ejectors eject and triggers go bang.

The only ding I have heard on them is that some guns trigger pulls are a little heavy. Those I shot seemed fine, and I’m a bit of a trigger snob.

They are nice guns if the price was $3000; they are great buys at under $2000.

You'll definitely want to test the triggers on the Dickson before you buy one. Or be prepared to have a gunsmith work them over. The pulls seem to be all over the map and while some are fine, some are so heavy you can hang the gun by the trigger.

Maybe. What details would you like? It uses thin wall chokes, you can’t even tell it has them. Not gaudy looking like tubes on most SXS shotguns. The triggers, while they are a bit on the heavy side it doesn’t bother me at all, especially on a shotgun.