Recently threw together a new rifle. That will stay on the side by side with me. I'm looking at optics, I like the looks of some of the 1x. I would like something with quick target acquisition, but still he able to shoot small (rabbit size) targets out to 150 yds. Is that possible? I do not want open turrets. Is the vortex strike eagle 1-6 capable of 100 yard accuracy with the reticle it has? Or am I better suited with a 2-7?

You said 1x - do not underestimate the capability of a DOT sight....... (some a quite capable) I like the 30mm tubes better...............

A 1-4 or 1-6 should let you do want you want, and still be very fast at 1x. I just put a SWFA on my Mini 14 and it’s pretty nice. Not sure how the reticle will work on small field targets yet, but it has an open diamond with a center dot. Open turrets, but the clicks are very firm and not likely to wander. Riding around on a SxS, I’d want something that will hold zero, so would focus on user reviews about that. No idea about the reliability of the Vortex you mention, but I think the reticle should work.

I've seen some nice 1 x 6 scopes meant for an AR.. I have bought a 1 x 4, but admit would like to upgrade to a 1 x 6.

I just need to do so....

See if you can’t find a used Weaver 1x3. If not that, then just buy a new Leupold 1x4.

I bought a demo one of the SWFA 1-6 HDs and cannot say enough good about it. Though FFP, they really got the reticle right on this one. Useable at all magnifications. I’ve not seen a single FFP LPVO that has a better designed reticle. Glass is very good and mechanics are bullet proof.

https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-1-6x24-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html?___SID=U

John

How about an Eotech holographic?

Interesting question. I'm torn. I think an AR "deserves" a low power optic and I have a NIB 1.75-6X Leupold but I can see accuracy reduction with the 3-9X I currently have on it vs the 4.5-14X I used when working up loads. I like the practical application of the lower powered scope but as an accuracy guy it truly pains me to know my optics aren't up to the rifle's accuracy capability.

In your shoes, I would start with a higher powered scope and do some load workup / testing first, then see what the level of accuracy your gun has suggests about how much optics it can use.

Tom

I’ve looked through those long ago, but not used one. I have though, reflex and tube red dots, prisms, and See All open sights. None of them allow me to aim as small and see as well as a scope. Perhaps others’ eyes will, but mine don’t, even corrected. Just passed my drivers license vision test without glasses an hour ago with my 20/25 vision, so it ain’t so bad either way.

I never cared for the look or form-factor of an Eotech, but certainly others like them pretty well.

Tract offers a new 1X8 straight tube that would be excellent for your AR

I grabbed one of these off of sample list at the recommendation of stick and have been impressed with the reticle as well.

Another for consideration is the NX8 1-8. It does have an exposed elevation turret though.

I like and use the Vortex Razor HD gen II E 1-6x24 and the Steiner 1-4x24 p4xi. Both have good daylight visible illumination and BDC reticles. The Razor is heavier at 21.5 ounces but has more magnification and better glass. It also costs more at around $1400. The Steiner runs about $800 normally. Cheaper scopes like the Strike Eagle and the Primary Arms 1-6x work reasonably well for around $300.

I bought one of these and it has proven to be a tough useful scope that tracks well and hold zero. Not too expensive either.

https://www.natchezss.com/konus-kon...ope-engraved-ill-center-dot-reticle.html

Yes

The reticle absolutely sucks for any type of precision shooting IMO.

I was tasked with working up a load for a buddies DD that had that optic on top. Trying to shoot groups with that reticle was a pain to say the least.


Trigicons Huron/Ascent line may be worth looking at. I have one of each.....and have been pleased with both.

1-8 or 1x8? 🤔

I use a 1-4x24 Vortex Viper PST on my competition service rifle for distances ranging from 100-600 yards.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

That's exactly my situation. I'm terrified of losing accuracy with a low powered scope. At the same time, 99% of my shots are less than 100 yds.

budget - Burris RT-6
good - Burris XTR II 1-8
great - razor 1-6
price no object - razor 1-10, kahles 1-6, march 1-10...

Well, then, why not just spend the extra hundred bucks and buy the 1-8 Strike Eagle?

$399 at Optics Planet w/Free 2 Day Shipping (code 2DAYAIR).

https://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-opmod-strike-eagle-1-8x24-riflescope.html

That's probably what I'm going to do! I've never owned anything with a reticle like that, so I wasn't sure about it. I sure wish they made them in something a little less busy.

I'm plenty "accurate" out to 600 yards with my 1-4 Viper and the PST reticle is not busy at all. I do my load development with it on 4x at 100 yards and then shoot in competition with it's set between 2x and 4x depending on the distance.
It has an illuminated reticle, but I never ever turn it on. Ever.

Another vote for the SWFA 1-6. I read good things about it here so when I saw one used for a good price I got it. I have been really impressed with its reticle,, how durable it is, the adjustments, etc.

Regarding the ability to group or work up loads with a low power scope, with 6X and an appropriate sized dot it has not been a problem for me and I have horrible vision.

This is sighting in with a 12.5 inch pistol and a 75 grain Hornady load and the SWFA scope it was previously cited in with a different powder

Add me to the SWFA 1-6 cadre.

Having said that, I've been contemplating trying out the NX8 1-8 as I hear at 1x is almost the same as an Aimpoint.
Anyone out there running one?

If it’s rifle for potential social duty, a good 1-4 LPVO with illumination is pretty awesome. Can’t speak to the 1-6 units but people say good things (about some of them).

I think a rabbit would be in big trouble at 150 with my particular 1-4 and the reticle it has! Maybe not for head shots, but as long as the mission was just to smoke the bunny... lol

I started out with one of those for shooting HP. I dumped it when the adjustments took a crap on me.

Probably fine if you set it & forget it, but I wouldn't trust it if I planned on twisting the knobs.

I'm really impressed with this little scope, Konus Pro 1.5-6x42mm fast target acquisition, hold zero and plenty good to 300 yards on coyotes.


Link
https://cameralandny.com/shop/brand...0137-51e0-00163ecd2826?variation=2061752

I have a Leupold 1.75-6x32 on my AR10.

One of my AR-15s has a March 1.5-15X42 in a 30mm tube with ED glass. It is a bit spendy, but it's an awesome low-magnification second focal plane scope.

I bet!

It’s a shame Zeiss discontinued the 1-4 V4 Conquest. Actually it’s a shame they are not still available at the disco’d price, haha.

I really like the true 1X setting. It takes some work, but a guy can then shoot with both eyes open and focused. It really ups the tactical awareness of what’s going on around the target.

Another reasonable priced option is the Swampfox Arrowhead. I like my 1-10 as a do it all scope. Good at 1x and can crank it up to shoot groups/tryout loads. Illuminated reticle as well.

Fwiw i shoot both eyes open and always have. Didnt know different LOL.
My right is super dominate though.

So do I.

Aimpoint.





There is aimpoint, and then theres everything else.

I do too and also always have. What I never had in the past was an optically awesome, true 1x scope. With that I can shoot with, as I said, both eyes open and focused. Put another way, without my brain “turning off” my left, non-dominant eye.

I have very high end glass on some LR weapons... and real hunting weapons (Kahles, S&B, Kaps, Zeiss, Leupold et al)

Tried a few of the cheap ass KonusPros from Doug on some carbine stuff... damn impressive for the absurdly low price.

.375 and 458 SOCOM kill scopes (we have blown up $1800 Zeiss stuff... SOCOMs have a weird lateral shock wave or something)... but we can't blow up a Konus no matter what we do.

Glass is NOT $2k glass, but it has always been sufficient to my needs on ARs and KS-47s out to 400 yards.

Of course YMMV...

LOL... I hadn't seen you post when I put up mine.

Nice shooting...

Last week i put a EOTECH HWS on an AR15. It took about 5 rounds to zero properly. I then shot 3 consecutive 1" to 1¼" groups at 100 yards. I was impressed. Wouldn't have been my first choice but this is what the guy had. Can't imagine anything easier to use

Accuracy can still be there on the range if one has targets that fit his scope/sights. Historically, I've been on a big scope binge with units in the 4.5 to 20X range. With those, I was using targets with bulls as small as 1/4 inch. Aim small, shoot small. Next acquisition was a Marlin Guide Gun with a 2.5X Leupold Scout scope and I couldn't even see those tiny bull's eyes. First range efforts were a disaster. Worked up some new targets providing just a trace of white around the cross hairs centered on the bull, and that unit is now repeatedly doing cloverleafs at 100 yds.

My intentions are for it to be dark timber elk gun, so targets will likely be quite large.

Had the same issue with a Sharps and double peeps. Drafted a target that centers well with those sights, and it too is capable of MOA stuff with irons. Helps some that it has a 37-inch sight plain between the tang and front sight.