Recently threw together a new rifle. That will stay on the side by side with me. I'm looking at optics, I like the looks of some of the 1x. I would like something with quick target acquisition, but still he able to shoot small (rabbit size) targets out to 150 yds. Is that possible? I do not want open turrets. Is the vortex strike eagle 1-6 capable of 100 yard accuracy with the reticle it has? Or am I better suited with a 2-7?
Interesting question. I'm torn. I think an AR "deserves" a low power optic and I have a NIB 1.75-6X Leupold but I can see accuracy reduction with the 3-9X I currently have on it vs the 4.5-14X I used when working up loads. I like the practical application of the lower powered scope but as an accuracy guy it truly pains me to know my optics aren't up to the rifle's accuracy capability.
In your shoes, I would start with a higher powered scope and do some load workup / testing first, then see what the level of accuracy your gun has suggests about how much optics it can use.
Tom
That's exactly my situation. I'm terrified of losing accuracy with a low powered scope. At the same time, 99% of my shots are less than 100 yds.
Well, then, why not just spend the extra hundred bucks and buy the 1-8 Strike Eagle?
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Recently threw together a new rifle. That will stay on the side by side with me. I'm looking at optics, I like the looks of some of the 1x. I would like something with quick target acquisition, but still he able to shoot small (rabbit size) targets out to 150 yds. Is that possible? I do not want open turrets. Is the vortex strike eagle 1-6 capable of 100 yard accuracy with the reticle it has? Or am I better suited with a 2-7?
Interesting question. I'm torn. I think an AR "deserves" a low power optic and I have a NIB 1.75-6X Leupold but I can see accuracy reduction with the 3-9X I currently have on it vs the 4.5-14X I used when working up loads. I like the practical application of the lower powered scope but as an accuracy guy it truly pains me to know my optics aren't up to the rifle's accuracy capability.
In your shoes, I would start with a higher powered scope and do some load workup / testing first, then see what the level of accuracy your gun has suggests about how much optics it can use.
Tom
That's exactly my situation. I'm terrified of losing accuracy with a low powered scope. At the same time, 99% of my shots are less than 100 yds.
Well, then, why not just spend the extra hundred bucks and buy the 1-8 Strike Eagle?
$399 at Optics Planet w/Free 2 Day Shipping (code 2DAYAIR).
That's probably what I'm going to do! I've never owned anything with a reticle like that, so I wasn't sure about it. I sure wish they made them in something a little less busy.
I'm plenty "accurate" out to 600 yards with my 1-4 Viper and the PST reticle is not busy at all. I do my load development with it on 4x at 100 yards and then shoot in competition with it's set between 2x and 4x depending on the distance. It has an illuminated reticle, but I never ever turn it on. Ever.
Another vote for the SWFA 1-6. I read good things about it here so when I saw one used for a good price I got it. I have been really impressed with its reticle,, how durable it is, the adjustments, etc.
Regarding the ability to group or work up loads with a low power scope, with 6X and an appropriate sized dot it has not been a problem for me and I have horrible vision.
This is sighting in with a 12.5 inch pistol and a 75 grain Hornady load and the SWFA scope it was previously cited in with a different powder
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Recently threw together a new rifle. That will stay on the side by side with me. I'm looking at optics, I like the looks of some of the 1x. I would like something with quick target acquisition, but still he able to shoot small (rabbit size) targets out to 150 yds. Is that possible? I do not want open turrets. Is the vortex strike eagle 1-6 capable of 100 yard accuracy with the reticle it has? Or am I better suited with a 2-7?
If it’s rifle for potential social duty, a good 1-4 LPVO with illumination is pretty awesome. Can’t speak to the 1-6 units but people say good things (about some of them).
I think a rabbit would be in big trouble at 150 with my particular 1-4 and the reticle it has! Maybe not for head shots, but as long as the mission was just to smoke the bunny... lol
One of my AR-15s has a March 1.5-15X42 in a 30mm tube with ED glass. It is a bit spendy, but it's an awesome low-magnification second focal plane scope.
It’s a shame Zeiss discontinued the 1-4 V4 Conquest. Actually it’s a shame they are not still available at the disco’d price, haha.
I really like the true 1X setting. It takes some work, but a guy can then shoot with both eyes open and focused. It really ups the tactical awareness of what’s going on around the target.
Another reasonable priced option is the Swampfox Arrowhead. I like my 1-10 as a do it all scope. Good at 1x and can crank it up to shoot groups/tryout loads. Illuminated reticle as well.
It’s a shame Zeiss discontinued the 1-4 V4 Conquest. Actually it’s a shame they are not still available at the disco’d price, haha.
I really like the true 1X setting. It takes some work, but a guy can then shoot with both eyes open and focused. It really ups the tactical awareness of what’s going on around the target.
Fwiw i shoot both eyes open and always have. Didnt know different LOL. My right is super dominate though.
It’s a shame Zeiss discontinued the 1-4 V4 Conquest. Actually it’s a shame they are not still available at the disco’d price, haha.
I really like the true 1X setting. It takes some work, but a guy can then shoot with both eyes open and focused. It really ups the tactical awareness of what’s going on around the target.
Fwiw i shoot both eyes open and always have. Didnt know different LOL. My right is super dominate though.
I do too and also always have. What I never had in the past was an optically awesome, true 1x scope. With that I can shoot with, as I said, both eyes open and focused. Put another way, without my brain “turning off” my left, non-dominant eye.
I have very high end glass on some LR weapons... and real hunting weapons (Kahles, S&B, Kaps, Zeiss, Leupold et al)
Tried a few of the cheap ass KonusPros from Doug on some carbine stuff... damn impressive for the absurdly low price.
.375 and 458 SOCOM kill scopes (we have blown up $1800 Zeiss stuff... SOCOMs have a weird lateral shock wave or something)... but we can't blow up a Konus no matter what we do.
Glass is NOT $2k glass, but it has always been sufficient to my needs on ARs and KS-47s out to 400 yards.
Of course YMMV...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
Recently threw together a new rifle. That will stay on the side by side with me. I'm looking at optics, I like the looks of some of the 1x. I would like something with quick target acquisition, but still he able to shoot small (rabbit size) targets out to 150 yds. Is that possible? I do not want open turrets. Is the vortex strike eagle 1-6 capable of 100 yard accuracy with the reticle it has? Or am I better suited with a 2-7?
Last week i put a EOTECH HWS on an AR15. It took about 5 rounds to zero properly. I then shot 3 consecutive 1" to 1¼" groups at 100 yards. I was impressed. Wouldn't have been my first choice but this is what the guy had. Can't imagine anything easier to use
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