I'm looking at these two Leupold scopes.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102305853?pid=385031

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020316114?pid=859800

They are close in power range, the Freedom is lower in price and has more elevation adjustment. How does the glass compare? TIA Tom

I own 2 Freedom 3-9x40’s with the Hunt Plex reticle, non-CDS. They seem to be the current version of the VX-2 optically. I’ve only looked through a VX-3HD at the range, and the glass was better, slightly. It’s probably more noticeable in low light or identifying a target in the shadows. Is it worth the extra $ to go for the HD? I say, “no.” The difference in adjustment range is irrelevant since neither scope has parallax adjustment, which shows itself at closer ranges than folks realize. Unless you’re worried about resale value, I’d go either the Freedom for the price difference.

No comparison really. In looks, finish, features, optics, reticle, etc. Well worth the difference

And, the VX3-HD scope mentioned is available online from other sources for $399 ($238 for the Freedom). www.gun.deals and type in the model number or sku in the search bar.

Countdown begins to when the thread gets totally derailed due to irrelevant information, Leupold bashing, and pimping other brands that were not mentioned or considered by the OP.

Hint...

I hope you have thick skin…

Both are steaming piles of fhuqking schit. Try a scope that actually works,if only for the first time. Hint..............

Sent two Leupold back to Beaverton about a month ago… just got emails saying they both need to be replaced.

It doesn’t inspire too much confidence.

In full disclosure,I've not had a Reupold PUKE,since yesterday morning. MK4 Spotter appears to VERY obviously have a lens delaminating. Hint.






It will "only" be it's second trip to their VERY busy Repair Department. I was told to expect at least a 4wk wait,when I had them on the horn yesterday. Hint





REALLY inspires "confidence"! Hint.(grin)


Though in fairness,the scopes are funnier than that. Hint.





Bless their hearts for trying though.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............

Current repair time for SWFA is "whenever we get them in, no ETA". They don't repair, just replace. Some have been waiting over a year for a replacement. Only a certain amount are allocated for warranty replacement orders. Inspires great confidence.

And yes, they fail too. Just saw a thread on another forum with many dealing with the horrible customer service. It's a $hitshow on a good day.

KenBitchAgain,

I'm VERY "surprised" that your "life" is spent reading,rather than "doing" and what were the "odds"...you "lucky" kchunt? Hint. Congratulations?!?










SWFA's are VERY "tender" and I "only" have 80 or so. Hint.








Been a couple days since I've had some show up. Hint.





Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". You Brokedick Whining CLUELESS Kchunts are a hoot! Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................

That wasn't my experience at all, as of just a few weeks ago. Called them up, got an answer on the 3rd ring, told them I broke my 6x and that it was my fault. They sent me a link to print out a form for repair/replace. Sent it in and had a new 10x in less than a week, which was my choice as I didn't feel like waiting on a 6x to be in stock.

Shocking, this thread went from Leupold to Super Sniper without Stick’s notorious ignorance, though not lacking attempt.

You Crying CLUELESS Kchunts are a hoot! Hint.







Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Big schit is a fugkin clown, hint , laughing at his imagination and pretend.

Hilarious06,

It's your Imagination,so simply Pretend with it in the way you MUST,to best satiate your reality...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?


Pardon my shooting it all and then some,as you set on the sidelines and Whine aloud. Be sure to keep filling out those Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.





Bless your heart for Crying.

Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Dead air during all this? Or were you diligently watching the wind flags ya had set up? Conditions from group to group?

Dumbo,

The depths of your Drooling STUPIDITY,is exceedingly "impressive" and the depths in which you are in over your pointy head,plum fhuqking AMAZING...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?




















You AMAZINGLY Inept Whining Brokedicks,ae a hoot! Hint.





Bless your poor poor(literally) heart for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................

Dang it schtick, ya didn't have to go through all that. Simply, you know this, simply, what were the conditions & their changes between groups. Not a bad shooting rifle, & the scope responding reasonably or not,,,,,,,,,,,, but conditions during the test tells all, that's all.

Dumbo,

Pardon that which confounds you,being blasse' for me...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I enjoy you Drooling aloud,with your Imagination and Pretend. Pardon that rifle(amongst a host of others) being LEGENDARY. Install a Reupold 4.5-14x MK4 M1 and it's akin to installing a Skeet Tube. Hint.

You couldn't summons a sound rifle,in a "life" of trying. The Omelette Maker in current configuration,though T-16's DO track. Hint.






Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................

Hey Little Liar Larry, I really like the picture above of your "1000 rounds per day", the one with about 25 empty cases in the cap from your day's shooting.

1000 rounds of blathering bullschidt

You ladies should combine "resources" and go halfsies on a down payment for a camera,though there's no slighting why you steal mine...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Plum flattering how much you Do NOTHING Kchunts think about me and you gals suck a mean ass to boot. Hint.

Bless your hearts,for doing your HILARIOUS Brokedick best.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................

Live in your own mind schtick, but not a winning benchrest competitor on the planet, whether for score or group, will agree with your assessment or gibberish. A great group or the placement of it is worthless info without wind info at the time of the shot. Period.

You won't own up to it, but it's simply the way it is. Mike drop

Thus explaining the virtual 1000 shots per day.

The other 997 went slightly off track. Hint

Dumbo,

Keep licking windows and wishing you were there,as you "live" vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You gals should form an alliance to combine your "powers",so as to keep things "fair". The Twatly Trifecta,is a "hard charging" band of Delusional Brokedick Dreamers,who couldn't summons a sound rifle as a group effort. Hint.

Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you gals can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

Bless your poor poor(literally) hearts for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Stick,

How much rain do you all get a year?

Nearly got a foot last year and I was worried that the fences were gonna rust and the Critters were gonna get out! Hint...................

A lot of people like to blame their misses on the scope. It's convenient. Any time I have ever put the plus sign of a Leupold on an animal and pulled the trigger, the animal died. That's what scopes are for.

Folks who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,are BEST served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". Hint.

When was the last time you fired a live round? Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!............

One of the Leupolds I sent back, and is being replaced, was so bad I couldn’t get anything even close to resembling a zero. The groups were dismal and the tracking didn’t make any sense at all. Moving 2 moa L ended up moving more like 5-6. Groups were like patterns as you can see. Would it have ended up with a dead animal? Maybe at 100yds, as long as you don’t need to adjust anything. Was the scope broken? Absolutely.








The other replaced scope was a 6-5-20 that was on a sharp recoiling cooper in .22 hornet…

The longer the tube length,the worse they do. Doubly so in 1". Hint.

A tall target test will resolve all,in mere minutes. Saw (3) NIB Reupolds Puke on a single outing,doing same. In fairness,you can generally hear it,with a shake. Hint.

The only thing Paula "shoots" is her mouth and Imagination...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Stick, hold tight at the gates to the AK petting zoo, one of the greatest places on earth! I miss it every day!

Paul / et. all,

While I have some Leupold, mostly on rimfires, I no longer have any on centerfires or big game rifles. I’ve had too many NOT hold zero.

It does nothing for one’s confidence when you have to adjust up five, down seven, tap on the scope and put chicken bones around your shooting bench just to get a scope dialed in. There are many of us who have quietly migrated away from Leupold. I have a Trijicon Ten Mile on its way to put on a 6.5 SAUM that I had built.


Good shootin folks.

Bob

You sure it's not a cracked scope ring?

The 3 I have used have all had to be sent back for moving zero. Leupold always claims there was nothing wrong with them. Even new None of them would adjust as advertised. I had 2 fail last deer season. Haven't sent them back yet pretty disgusted with them as a brand. Bought replacements of another brand.

Yea I’m sure. The rings were/are sound

Dubiedog- agree, very sensibly stated. The Freedom will get you past legal hunting times and is very easy to mount. Just bought one myself and also have a VX-3. Wil try to compare the two in field condition some time. Hard to pay for an VX-3 HD when options like the Freedom or certain Burris are out there. I went with the Freedom instead of an FF2 or Droptine or E1 only because of the #4 hunt reticle. It is a sleek looking scope. Is it worth another hundred bucks over the Droptine we just bought my future S-i-L.....only if the reticle matters enough -and the overall price isn't prohibitive to you. It wasn't to me but if it were even a few bucks more my last scope would say Burris on the side. I used to always say things like pay for the best scope you can afford, or it is cheaper to buy once....but entry level scopes have so upped their game over the past decade or so you get a heck of a lot more bang for fewer bucks.

The hunt plex reticle is an abortion like the wide duplex.

Not for my situations.

To each his own.

I guess. I find the large spacing between the ends of the thick parts of the reticles makes them little better than a plain crosshair.

Paul, had my dad lined up on a coues buck once. At 200 yards. He got steady, took the shot, and missed. I checked the rifle later that day. Was 4MOA off to the right. Hadn't been dropped or hit hard or anything, since zeroing just before the hunt. A few days later, got back on the same buck, one drainage over, and he killed it. It had a graze across it's throat, where the POI would've been, with the scope being off 4MOA. I'll hedge my bets with scopes which don't shuffle on me. A click off here and there, sure, but doing the zero shuffle is overrated.

I have always like #4 type for quick acquisition. It replaced a fixed 6x #4 Burris I just should not bring myself to replace for a long time. I found I like heading out at 3-4x these days.

A #4 type with the thick parts coming in close to center is all right. With wide spacing, what's the use?

100% agree, and I would include a duplex with the #4.

And why not make the thick parts fairly heavy?

The wide thin reticles that seem to be offered so much by scope makers these days makes no sense to me whatsoever.

At least give us a choice between the two, but no.