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Posted By: stxhunter no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
f-cked my back up on the boat last wens when we hit a big wave wrong, instead of taking it easy I worked and made it worse. spent yesterday laying on the floor while my son and stepson worked, going to eat some pain pills and drive them to the job which is out of town. probably spend the day on the floor again.
Hang tough, dude. I feel your pain. I am repairing foundations again and my old injuries are a brutal , daily reminder! I was kind of hoping to be in management at this stage of the game! smile
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Hang in there!

I hate when my back goes out. Not fun.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
yeah, I went up in the air then slammed down on my ass jamming my lower back, it was instant pain when it happened.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Bad news.

Did that in an airboat once.

Boats don't have much of a suspension system. When they come down, it'll jar you hard.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
what was bad is when I came down I then went forward knocking the throttles wide open into the next wave.
Posted By: R_H_Clark Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Getting old sucks. Best we can do is keep fighting the bastard with all we can. I've had issues for years. Yoga helps me tremendously but then I'll stop doing it for 3-4 days and I'm right back where I started. If it's muscle related,find out what kind of therapy you need to do on it and just start making a habit of it.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
never have had back issues before.
Posted By: hunter4623 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
An Inversion table is your friend. Spend a couple $100 on that and save the money you’ll end up spending on chiropractors, prescriptions, etc. I crushed 3 lumbar vertebrae in 2003. Spent 3 days a week in the Chiro office getting stretched, cracked and put in traction for 6 months. Anytime I feel some tightness I do a couple minutes, 3x a day for a few days and it goes back to normal. Hope you feel better soon
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Had a similar thing happen two years back when I weren’t paying attention and went off a curb on a bicycle. Is there any way of giving yourself lower back support while driving? I would put a wadded up shirt behind the small of my back.
Posted By: JTrapper73 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
There’s not much worse than a man who can’t work who is used to working and wants to work. Sits heavy on his mind.
I hope you make a quick recovery.
Posted By: R_H_Clark Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by hunter4623
An Inversion table is your friend. Spend a couple $100 on that and save the money you’ll end up spending on chiropractors, prescriptions, etc. I crushed 3 lumbar vertebrae in 2003. Spent 3 days a week in the Chiro office getting stretched, cracked and put in traction for 6 months. Anytime I feel some tightness I do a couple minutes, 3x a day for a few days and it goes back to normal. Hope you feel better soon

I use a Yoga body Yoga Swing. It does the inversion therapy plus 100 or so other strengthening and stretching exercises.
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Get to an orthopedic specialist. Get an X-ray, then an MRI if required. I have had neck surgery (spinal fusion) and low back surgery (laminectomy). Waiting for things to get better on their own is not a good plan.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by Jerseyboy
Get to an orthopedic specialist. Get an X-ray, then an MRI if required. I have had neck surgery (spinal fusion) and low back surgery (laminectomy). Waiting for things to get better on their own is not a good plan.

if i don't feel better in a couple days i well.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Damn Roger, Ain't much worse than your back taking a schit on you, well there is worse it just doesn't seem so at the time.

Heal fast and true!
Posted By: pal Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
A surgeon's solution will invariably be to cut you. Instead go to a deep tissue massage therapist (shiatsu). A chiropractor might give you immediate, temporary relief.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
No quick cure I know of. You might try a heating pad, screech over a Swiss ball, then put an ice pack on it.

I have some horse liniment I use at times. Wash your hands after.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Some people get some good using an inverter table?
Posted By: memtb Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20

stxhunter, Sorry to hear about your back. If you haven’t already......consider an inversion table. The “Teeter” brand May be the best, affordable machine available. If you experience high blood pressure.....maybe not good for you! I abused my back many times over the years, finally ended up getting surgery. Try to be smarter than I was!
Good Luck, memtb
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Stxhunter: I feel for you!
Over my 7 decades on earth I have "thrown my back out" 5 or 6 times - it is misery compounded!
I am old enough to remember that when an adult "threw their back out" they were hauled off to the nearest hospital and "put in traction" for a week or two.
I remember visiting my Uncles in the hospital and being amazed by the wires, pulleys and ropes that tugged on them constantly for all their recuperation time.
Eventually the Doctors learned that recuperation times did NOT improve with the use of the medieval "traction devices" being attached to human bodies.
Pills and behavior modifications replaced that regimen.
I wish you a quick and complete recuperation.
Let us know.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: wabigoon Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Then there are the chiropractors.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Let it rest (hard to do when you're a hard worker) then stretch it when you get better as a preventative.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
My dad had severe back pain at times. My back was good. I was going to take care of my back and never going to deal with that.

15 years ago I shot a big muley and backed the little Tacoma up to it. Trying to pull it up in the bed, its shoulder hung on the tailgate. I decided to pull as hard as I could. Crracck. Had to call for my son to come from 70 miles away. I thought I was paralyzed.

SOB. There went my back. Freaking unreal. I still can't believe I forgot about my back and did that.

Dont EVER say never.

I got over it and did ok till 10 years later and started having problems. Numd in feet and back acting up.

Nurologist got x ray and asked if I had hurt my back within the last couple of years. Crap. 15 yrs ago. Broke vertebra and slipped 3 discs. Then CT and after that MRI.

Got to get back in and get the verdict.

Glad I didnt get that buck mounted.

Please guys, tell your kids to train themselves to think about things like that.
Posted By: benchman Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Sucks. Few things are as debilitating as back pain. Hope ya heal up fast!
Posted By: wabigoon Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Cortisone shots.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
I'll get over it been through worse, give my kids hell because I've worked with broken bones and they cry about a cold.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Once broke my arm took a dermal and slit the cast lengthwise so I could take it off and put it back on with an ace bandage so I could fish. my right arm needed it to cast the rod.
Get one of those suspended seats like the cigarello boats have...
But rest first.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Get one of those suspended seats like the cigarello boats have...
But rest first.

I'll kick back on the bean bags next time or just stand.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Took the helm seat out of my boat. Learned that lesson many moons back. Bending your knees are your best back protection on a boat.
Posted By: EdM Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Tough, Roger. After four weeks I am about normal after doing something to tweak my lower back. No idea what I did but the following day I volunteered at the food bank lifting and loading boxes of food. That sealed the deal. I just came back from a couple of mile hike and feel pretty good.
Posted By: Mathsr Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
I rode the bean bags out 40 miles Sunday. Should have just stood up. When I got up, and took about three steps...I was sick as a dog. Never going to do that again. I’ve fished offshore for a little over 40 years and never got sick, but the last three times have torn me up. Not sure about old age, but I don’t think my balance is as good as it used to be. Might need to take something for it next time.
Standing up is the best bet to deal with those waves that catch you every so often. Let the knees be the shock absorber and keep your eyes pointed in a direction that gives you a little warning. And for me...stay out of the bean bags!
Hope your back is better and you get over it quickly!
Posted By: DMc Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Bummed to hear. Hope it gets better soon. Nothing worse than backaches and toothaches.
Posted By: deflave Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
I never, ever, ever sit on a boat in any sort of chop.

Unless it's equipped with one of those bad ass suspension seats.
Posted By: ElkSlayer91 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Call Doc, and ask him to write a prescrip for you, for a 5 day steroid pack, where you take 5 pills the first day, and graduate down to 1 pill the last day, 5-4-3-2-1. That’ll knock down the inflammation, and get the pain to go away.

Good chance you bulged a disc, but hopefully didn’t rupture it. Non-knife happy Orthopedics will tell you, if you can walk, you don’t need cutting on.

If you don’t have shooting pain down your leg from the Sciatic nerve right now, you just need to “rest it”, and I mean “rest” it, not rush it back to work., or you’ll be right back down on the floor, and immobile.

Don’t even think about playing golf for a year or two, or you’ll be taking a chance of reinjuring it, from twisting your upper torso in the golf swing, and you’ll go straight to your knees after thinking someone shoved a knife in your back.

Inversion tables do stretch out your spine, and allow the disc to stop pressing on the nerve and allow the disc to relax, and go back to it’s normal position, but if you have high blood pressure, might want to ask Doc about that before trying it, but you can use one in a slight inversion just below level too. You don’t have to go full vertical or 45 degree either for them to work.

Check your PM box.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Hate to hear this, a bad back is the worst. Flexeril, Tramadol and using CBD roll on pain stick works for me. I've been through two back surgeries in the last 35 years and a good high powered muscle relaxer works as good as anything I've tried. Some of the pain killers would make my skin crawl and I'd still be hurting.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by deflave
I never, ever, ever sit on a boat in any sort of chop.

Unless it's equipped with one of those bad ass suspension seats.

Normally I wouldn't but I was tired from not having much sleep the night before plus Wes was running 20-24mph in 4-5 ft seas.... too fast for those conditions then I wasn't paying attention, I was messing with the stereo. Bart's son and everyone else was on the bean bags.
I feel for you. I fish about every day and often have back pain. When it isn't that bad I do stretching each morning and take 4 ibuprophen for a few days to kick the inflammation down. If that doesn't do it time to hit the doctor up for a prednisone prescription which usually takes it down after a day or two. When it goes out.... the floor is my best friend.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Years back I would kinda smirk and think, ‘yeah, right ‘ when people said that they had ‘back trouble ‘,,,,until I hurt my back.

Ain’t funny at all.

Take it easy Roger and don’t rush things.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
ejp broke out in tears of sympathy.

Til he realize you posted bout "no fishing".
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
its supposed to be 5-9 ft every day, for the next week or so, but as soon as we get good seas I'll go.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Good luck with resting it Roger.

My experience, for all it's worth, until you get it imaged you don't know what kind of damage you've done. ( I know, DUH!)

I'm like many here, lived with it at times until once when I "tweaked" it lifting some heavy ass pipe at work. Imaging showed the bulged disc and stenosis from arthritis. I wasn't yet 60 either then. It hasn't gotten better, but the shots have helped bunches. A year's relieve the last time, and if it hadn't been for The Corona, I'd have gotten another this past spring.

Do yourself, and your workers, a favor and go get imaged if you're not better by like..................tonight or tomorrow morning. Whatever you do, don't let a chiro, PT, or massage person get at you until you do get imaging. If they have any smarts the wouldn't touch you with someone else's hands until you'd been looked at.

Hope it clears up soon, the damage can be permanent, especially if someone starts manipulating you without knowing what's going on inside.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Good luck with resting it Roger.

My experience, for all it's worth, until you get it imaged you don't know what kind of damage you've done. ( I know, DUH!)

I'm like many here, lived with it at times until once when I "tweaked" it lifting some heavy ass pipe at work. Imaging showed the bulged disc and stenosis from arthritis. I wasn't yet 60 either then. It hasn't gotten better, but the shots have helped bunches. A year's relieve the last time, and if it hadn't been for The Corona, I'd have gotten another this past spring.

Do yourself, and your workers, a favor and go get imaged if you're not better by like..................tonight or tomorrow morning. Whatever you do, don't let a chiro, PT, or massage person get at you until you do get imaging. If they have any smarts the wouldn't touch you with someone else's hands until you'd been looked at.

Hope it clears up soon, the damage can be permanent, especially if someone starts manipulating you without knowing what's going on inside.
thank you.
Posted By: victoro Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
"Good chance you bulged a disc, but hopefully didn’t rupture it. Non-knife happy Orthopedics will tell you, if you can walk, you don’t need cutting on."

Not true in every case. My son's wife suffered for years with back pain and could walk just fine but when her back pain became unbearable she went to her family doc. He who took an x-ray told her nothing was wrong with her back and referred her to a physical therapist. I knew from her symptoms she at least had a herniated disk (I've had 3 so far) and suggested she see the back specialist I had been going to. He told her DO NOT do any physical therapy until he looked at an MRI of her back. She had 3 ruptured discs and 2 broken vertebrae that required major surgery to repair (as much as possible).
Posted By: ElkSlayer91 Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Good chance you bulged a disc, but hopefully didn’t rupture it. Non-knife happy Orthopedics will tell you, if you can walk, you don’t need cutting on.


Originally Posted by victoro
Not true in every case. My son's wife suffered for years with back pain and could walk just fine but when her back pain became unbearable she went to her family doc. He who took an x-ray told her nothing was wrong with her back and referred her to a physical therapist. I knew from her symptoms she at least had a herniated disk (I've had 3 so far) and suggested she see the back specialist I had been going to. He told her DO NOT do any physical therapy until he looked at an MRI of her back. She had 3 ruptured discs and 2 broken vertebrae that required major surgery to repair (as much as possible).


What I said was true. Your DIL could "no longer" walk...it became "unbearable", and that is when surgery might be required...when it becomes unbearable (you can't walk any longer).

I had a friend many years ago, while he was still young, have a simple back surgery.

He died. They forgot to give him post-op meds to protect from infection, and that is why you "walk" as long as you can, because there are no "guarantees" in life.

Sounds like your DIL broke vertebras, and when they grew back together, they weren't aligned, and it caused the disc to push against her nerve, creating continual pain, and eventually forced her hand to seek further attention.

Glad she's better.
Posted By: Dess Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/24/20
Had this procedure done a couple of years ago. Was scheduled for spinal surgery the following week. After the PRP treatment, I walked upright out of the office. Never had the surgery. It's true my back isn't what it once was, but this worked for me. Good luck.


Platelet-rich plasma (PRP) therapy uses injections of a concentration of a patient's own platelets to accelerate the healing of injured tendons, ligaments, muscles and joints. In this way, PRP injections use each individual patient's own healing system to improve musculoskeletal problems.
Posted By: victoro Re: no fishing for awhile - 06/25/20
"Your DIL could "no longer" walk...it became "unbearable", and that is when surgery might be required...when it becomes unbearable (you can't walk any longer)."

Her pain became unbearale because she couldn't sleep.
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