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Spot on..... this essay should become a rally cry for traditional values.....



TUESDAY, JULY 7, 2020
How the Greatest Generation Begat the Stupidest Generation and Lost America

The first half of the 20th Century was one of the most devastating in human history. The people who lived through that calamitous period are called the Greatest Generation for good reason. They came of age during the Great Depression and went on to save the world from the Nazi and Japanese tyrannies. They fought hard to save the world and later built the United States into the dominant economic and military superpower on the planet.

The thing about the Greatest Generation was that their lives were tough… with a great depression sandwiched between two world wars, life was simply brutal. So when peacetime came around, they were enthusiastic about finally being able to focus on raising their families.

They of course wanted their kids to have better lives than they did. They didn’t want their kids have to deal with the food shortages, the unemployment and the wars that they had lived through. And so they pampered their children and tried to give them good lives. The problem is, their children became spoiled brats and grew into unrepentant socialists and Communists.

America saw that play out in front of their eyes during the 1960’s and 70’s. The postwar years saw an unprecedented economic boom in the United States with jobs and incomes growing to spectacular levels. Families moved to the suburbs, cars became ubiquitous and the golden age of television was upon us. So it’s not a great surprise that when things are going fairly well, spoiled children become spoiled young adults. Which is exactly what happened. From student protests demanding universities bend to their wills to anti-war marches demanding an end to the Vietnam War (really what they wanted was to not be drafted…) to supporting terrorist groups like the Weather Underground & the Black Panthers, young people spent much of the 1960’s & 70’s protesting and demanding pretty much everything. And when they didn’t get their way, they would cause mayhem, taking over universities, rioting and occasionally setting off bombs…

If that sounds a lot like what’s going on today in the streets, it’s no coincidence. The thugs out in the streets today causing mayhem are the children of those 1960’s hippies. One might think that parents who grew up in the midst of the chaotic, anything goes 60’s and 70’s might swing somewhat in the opposite direction and raise their children with a bit more discipline than they had growing up. But that’s not what happened. Just the opposite.

The children of the 80’s and 90’s and 00’s were even more spoiled than their parents. There was virtually no war – and of course, no draft – and although there were economic hiccups along the way, the economy grew steadily from the early 80’s. Things were often comfortable… Video games, participation trophies, MTV and grade inflation… what wasn’t to like? But something was going on… the hints of today’s chaos were being sowed without anyone noticing…

It was during this time that the radical students of the 1960’s and 70’s became the professors and administrators in the colleges they had previously attacked. They became politicians and media personalities and corporate flunkies and whatever passed for journalists. They became board members of foundations and literally wrote the text books used by their fellow travelers who’d become teachers in classrooms across the country.


And so here we are today… Not surprisingly, after these hippy fans of Marx and Lenin and Castro spent decades teaching America’s youth that the United States is evil and racist to its core, the youth have little respect for anything, much less their country. But more importantly, they have no awareness of context and history and reality. That Thomas Jefferson might have been a great if flawed man… Nope. That Gone with the Wind or Adventures of Huckleberry Finn might be masterpieces of literature despite their decidedly “unwoke” themes… Nope. That St. Louis might have been in the middle of a known world war when he led the Crusades… Doesn’t matter. That men can’t actually have babies… Scoff. Ronald Reagan once said: “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

And that is what makes the current generation of people wreaking havoc in the streets so stupid. Not because they can’t score well on the SAT, because they can – which like so much else in America these days has been watered down to almost irrelevancy – but because they refuse to see what’s right in front of them. Venezuela and Cuba are “worker’s paradises” but both are economic trainwrecks caused by socialism. Yet somehow these young people seek to take the United States down that same path. They are out in the streets protesting the death of a tiny handful of black men at the hands of police while black men kill 8,000 fellow black men every year. Activists and anarchists claim they want to remove monuments of a racist past yet they destroy statues of giants in the battle against slavery like Lincoln, Grant and Douglass. They decry capitalism but are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they live in a world of mobile phones, the Internet, Uber and Amazon that capitalism built.

That the imbecilic BLM and Antifa thugs currently seeking to erase history and destroy the country are the progeny begotten by the Greatest Generation brings to mind a quote from author G. Michael Hopf in Those Who Remain: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” In their desire to give their children and grandchildren better lives than they had to endure, the Greatest Generation created two generations of idiots not smart enough to recognize that in the lottery of life they have been gifted the Golden Ticket.

It’s only because they’ve had life so good that they have the luxury of excoriating the country in the first place… Rather than being caught up in the many wars that crisscross Africa or living daily with the threat of starvation or the lopping off of limbs, they can craft the fiction of “institutional racism”. Rather than being shot or have tanks roll over them for speaking “Truth to power”, they can put on their Che Guevera tee shirts grab their skateboards and scream “[bleep] the Police” while firebombing police stations secure in the notion that they’re unlikely to face any consequences. And on the off chance they did face the possibility of consequences for their actions, they’re confident in the notion that they’ll have an army of empty headed Hollywood and Twitter personalities ready to raise money for their defense and turn them into martyrs for the cause. They can burn the flag, blockade highways, tear down statues and vandalize churches and monuments, comfortable knowing the protections afforded by the very system they want to destroy will likely protect them from harm.

That so many Democrat politicians across the country have thrown in with and knelt down with these modern day Jacobins and sans-culottes, and allowed so much of our history to be destroyed will one day be written about as a turning point in American history. It will be the beginning of a revolution… either one in which real Americans decide to take back their history from the Stalinists running academia, the media, Silicon Valley and increasingly, “woke” corporations; or one in which the “woke” Democrats prevail in November and set about destroying the Constitution and the killing the goose that laid the golden eggs they have been eating their entire lives. One will see a free United States leading a the world as the 21st century unfolds while the other will see the world collapse into a fire of war as the world’s beacon of freedom, prosperity and strength is replaced with a fascist state wrapped around a Zimbabwe like economic disaster. Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does" and that's exactly what the country is looking at as the progeny of the Greatest Generation destroy the very legacy that was built for them. Hell is after all, paved with good intentions.
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Originally Posted by 2ndwind

How the greatest generation begat the stupidest


As a matter of logic, if they begat the “stupidest generation” there is no possible way they were the “greatest generation.”

It’s not possible... but then I don’t believe in the “greatest generation” myth...
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
https://imperfectamerica.blogspot.c...gat-stupidest.html?utm_source=whatfinger

Spot on..... this essay should become a rally cry for traditional values.....



TUESDAY, JULY 7, 2020
How the Greatest Generation Begat the Stupidest Generation and Lost America

The first half of the 20th Century was one of the most devastating in human history. The people who lived through that calamitous period are called the Greatest Generation for good reason. They came of age during the Great Depression and went on to save the world from the Nazi and Japanese tyrannies. They fought hard to save the world and later built the United States into the dominant economic and military superpower on the planet.

The thing about the Greatest Generation was that their lives were tough… with a great depression sandwiched between two world wars, life was simply brutal. So when peacetime came around, they were enthusiastic about finally being able to focus on raising their families.

They of course wanted their kids to have better lives than they did. They didn’t want their kids have to deal with the food shortages, the unemployment and the wars that they had lived through. And so they pampered their children and tried to give them good lives. The problem is, their children became spoiled brats and grew into unrepentant socialists and Communists.

America saw that play out in front of their eyes during the 1960’s and 70’s. The postwar years saw an unprecedented economic boom in the United States with jobs and incomes growing to spectacular levels. Families moved to the suburbs, cars became ubiquitous and the golden age of television was upon us. So it’s not a great surprise that when things are going fairly well, spoiled children become spoiled young adults. Which is exactly what happened. From student protests demanding universities bend to their wills to anti-war marches demanding an end to the Vietnam War (really what they wanted was to not be drafted…) to supporting terrorist groups like the Weather Underground & the Black Panthers, young people spent much of the 1960’s & 70’s protesting and demanding pretty much everything. And when they didn’t get their way, they would cause mayhem, taking over universities, rioting and occasionally setting off bombs…

If that sounds a lot like what’s going on today in the streets, it’s no coincidence. The thugs out in the streets today causing mayhem are the children of those 1960’s hippies. One might think that parents who grew up in the midst of the chaotic, anything goes 60’s and 70’s might swing somewhat in the opposite direction and raise their children with a bit more discipline than they had growing up. But that’s not what happened. Just the opposite.

The children of the 80’s and 90’s and 00’s were even more spoiled than their parents. There was virtually no war – and of course, no draft – and although there were economic hiccups along the way, the economy grew steadily from the early 80’s. Things were often comfortable… Video games, participation trophies, MTV and grade inflation… what wasn’t to like? But something was going on… the hints of today’s chaos were being sowed without anyone noticing…

It was during this time that the radical students of the 1960’s and 70’s became the professors and administrators in the colleges they had previously attacked. They became politicians and media personalities and corporate flunkies and whatever passed for journalists. They became board members of foundations and literally wrote the text books used by their fellow travelers who’d become teachers in classrooms across the country.


And so here we are today… Not surprisingly, after these hippy fans of Marx and Lenin and Castro spent decades teaching America’s youth that the United States is evil and racist to its core, the youth have little respect for anything, much less their country. But more importantly, they have no awareness of context and history and reality. That Thomas Jefferson might have been a great if flawed man… Nope. That Gone with the Wind or Adventures of Huckleberry Finn might be masterpieces of literature despite their decidedly “unwoke” themes… Nope. That St. Louis might have been in the middle of a known world war when he led the Crusades… Doesn’t matter. That men can’t actually have babies… Scoff. Ronald Reagan once said: “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

And that is what makes the current generation of people wreaking havoc in the streets so stupid. Not because they can’t score well on the SAT, because they can – which like so much else in America these days has been watered down to almost irrelevancy – but because they refuse to see what’s right in front of them. Venezuela and Cuba are “worker’s paradises” but both are economic trainwrecks caused by socialism. Yet somehow these young people seek to take the United States down that same path. They are out in the streets protesting the death of a tiny handful of black men at the hands of police while black men kill 8,000 fellow black men every year. Activists and anarchists claim they want to remove monuments of a racist past yet they destroy statues of giants in the battle against slavery like Lincoln, Grant and Douglass. They decry capitalism but are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they live in a world of mobile phones, the Internet, Uber and Amazon that capitalism built.

That the imbecilic BLM and Antifa thugs currently seeking to erase history and destroy the country are the progeny begotten by the Greatest Generation brings to mind a quote from author G. Michael Hopf in Those Who Remain: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” In their desire to give their children and grandchildren better lives than they had to endure, the Greatest Generation created two generations of idiots not smart enough to recognize that in the lottery of life they have been gifted the Golden Ticket.

It’s only because they’ve had life so good that they have the luxury of excoriating the country in the first place… Rather than being caught up in the many wars that crisscross Africa or living daily with the threat of starvation or the lopping off of limbs, they can craft the fiction of “institutional racism”. Rather than being shot or have tanks roll over them for speaking “Truth to power”, they can put on their Che Guevera tee shirts grab their skateboards and scream “[bleep] the Police” while firebombing police stations secure in the notion that they’re unlikely to face any consequences. And on the off chance they did face the possibility of consequences for their actions, they’re confident in the notion that they’ll have an army of empty headed Hollywood and Twitter personalities ready to raise money for their defense and turn them into martyrs for the cause. They can burn the flag, blockade highways, tear down statues and vandalize churches and monuments, comfortable knowing the protections afforded by the very system they want to destroy will likely protect them from harm.

That so many Democrat politicians across the country have thrown in with and knelt down with these modern day Jacobins and sans-culottes, and allowed so much of our history to be destroyed will one day be written about as a turning point in American history. It will be the beginning of a revolution… either one in which real Americans decide to take back their history from the Stalinists running academia, the media, Silicon Valley and increasingly, “woke” corporations; or one in which the “woke” Democrats prevail in November and set about destroying the Constitution and the killing the goose that laid the golden eggs they have been eating their entire lives. One will see a free United States leading a the world as the 21st century unfolds while the other will see the world collapse into a fire of war as the world’s beacon of freedom, prosperity and strength is replaced with a fascist state wrapped around a Zimbabwe like economic disaster. Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does" and that's exactly what the country is looking at as the progeny of the Greatest Generation destroy the very legacy that was built for them. Hell is after all, paved with good intentions.
Ignorant. Some truth mixed in with a lot of BS. Lincoln was a tyrant and Grant et al were tools of the worst sort. That should be evident now. The "greatest generation" was named that by Tom Brokaw, a f u cking idiotic liberal shixtheel. I love my parents and they had it tough, but to think they had it worse than those who fought in say the Revolutionary War or the Civil War? Scoff~
The offspring of "the greatest generation" did exactly what their parents did: voted for democrats, more socialism and fiat currency.


One of the most respected people in my life was a WWII POW; he never voted for a Republican in his 84 year life, because Hoover starved everyone...
My own theory is that the boomers were the first generation to routinely go through 12 years of public schools and for a lot of them especially the most radical they went of to college.

Prior generations (both of my WWII era grandparents) went through the 8th grade and then it was back to the farm. Not only did the older generations stay out of the public indoctrination system but they spent most of their free time with family working small farms. My grandpa’s fought in the war and then came back to find well paying suburbia manufacturing and chemical plant jobs with more free time and better pay. A lot of the WWII generation did the same and their kids were the first to grow up with a lot of free time and less influenced by family and more influence by friends and public schools.
Good people of any age can always be found.
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
My own theory is that the boomers were the first generation to routinely go through 12 years of public schools and for a lot of them especially the most radical they went of to college.

Prior generations (both of my WWII era grandparents) went through the 8th grade and then it was back to the farm. Not only did the older generations stay out of the public indoctrination system but they spent most of their free time with family working small farms. My grandpa’s fought in the war and then came back to find well paying suburbia manufacturing and chemical plant jobs with more free time and better pay. A lot of the WWII generation did the same and their kids were the first to grow up with a lot of free time and less influenced by family and more influence by friends and public schools.



Right on the money, bur then some of us grew up on farms anyway and weren't "Infected".
All right. Great to see your handle and your post again, TL.

Here's hoping you are doing well.
A lot of events led up to what happened in the 60s.

More than anything, the government wouldn't leave war alone. The American government had a lot of success waging war in the first half of the 20th century so it just decided that war was going to be its business.

People got tired of it.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Good people of any age can always be found.
Agreed.
Originally Posted by T LEE
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
My own theory is that the boomers were the first generation to routinely go through 12 years of public schools and for a lot of them especially the most radical they went of to college.

Prior generations (both of my WWII era grandparents) went through the 8th grade and then it was back to the farm. Not only did the older generations stay out of the public indoctrination system but they spent most of their free time with family working small farms. My grandpa’s fought in the war and then came back to find well paying suburbia manufacturing and chemical plant jobs with more free time and better pay. A lot of the WWII generation did the same and their kids were the first to grow up with a lot of free time and less influenced by family and more influence by friends and public schools.



Right on the money, bur then some of us grew up on farms anyway and weren't "Infected".


It’s good to see you back on here. I’m new to posting but have lurked on and off for years and have always liked your post.
I had a grandad born in the teens, a grandad born in the 20s, and both grandmothers born in the 30s. They all had VERY different outlooks on life. The 2 in the middle had what I see as the 'great depression mentality', whereas the oldest and youngest of the bunch didn't, despite all living through it, and all being born in the rural south. Just a POS "millennials" perspective on it. I've always thought it fascinating.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Good people of any age can always be found.



True, but we're currently a$$hole-deep in the Worthless Generation now.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Good people of any age can always be found.



True, but we're currently a$$hole-deep in the Worthless Generation now.


Cheer up, I just saw a report that this new generation Z or something is this first in 100 years to be more conservative than their parents. That doesn't mean that there are more of them conservative, it just means the ones that are conservative are more hardcore in their beliefs.
I've also got to point out a major flaw in this article, specifically where it says the generations of the 80s, 90s, and 00s didn't know war. Who do you think has been fighting this 20 year war? It wasn't me, but it damn sure was my peers and a few of my very good buddies, and the least I can do is to keep them from being slighted in that regard, as I see them suffering the effects daily.
Too much assumption and generalization garbage in that article for it to be relevant.
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
https://imperfectamerica.blogspot.c...gat-stupidest.html?utm_source=whatfinger

Spot on..... this essay should become a rally cry for traditional values.....



TUESDAY, JULY 7, 2020
How the Greatest Generation Begat the Stupidest Generation and Lost America

The first half of the 20th Century was one of the most devastating in human history. The people who lived through that calamitous period are called the Greatest Generation for good reason. They came of age during the Great Depression and went on to save the world from the Nazi and Japanese tyrannies. They fought hard to save the world and later built the United States into the dominant economic and military superpower on the planet.

The thing about the Greatest Generation was that their lives were tough… with a great depression sandwiched between two world wars, life was simply brutal. So when peacetime came around, they were enthusiastic about finally being able to focus on raising their families.

They of course wanted their kids to have better lives than they did. They didn’t want their kids have to deal with the food shortages, the unemployment and the wars that they had lived through. And so they pampered their children and tried to give them good lives. The problem is, their children became spoiled brats and grew into unrepentant socialists and Communists.

America saw that play out in front of their eyes during the 1960’s and 70’s. The postwar years saw an unprecedented economic boom in the United States with jobs and incomes growing to spectacular levels. Families moved to the suburbs, cars became ubiquitous and the golden age of television was upon us. So it’s not a great surprise that when things are going fairly well, spoiled children become spoiled young adults. Which is exactly what happened. From student protests demanding universities bend to their wills to anti-war marches demanding an end to the Vietnam War (really what they wanted was to not be drafted…) to supporting terrorist groups like the Weather Underground & the Black Panthers, young people spent much of the 1960’s & 70’s protesting and demanding pretty much everything. And when they didn’t get their way, they would cause mayhem, taking over universities, rioting and occasionally setting off bombs…

If that sounds a lot like what’s going on today in the streets, it’s no coincidence. The thugs out in the streets today causing mayhem are the children of those 1960’s hippies. One might think that parents who grew up in the midst of the chaotic, anything goes 60’s and 70’s might swing somewhat in the opposite direction and raise their children with a bit more discipline than they had growing up. But that’s not what happened. Just the opposite.

The children of the 80’s and 90’s and 00’s were even more spoiled than their parents. There was virtually no war – and of course, no draft – and although there were economic hiccups along the way, the economy grew steadily from the early 80’s. Things were often comfortable… Video games, participation trophies, MTV and grade inflation… what wasn’t to like? But something was going on… the hints of today’s chaos were being sowed without anyone noticing…

It was during this time that the radical students of the 1960’s and 70’s became the professors and administrators in the colleges they had previously attacked. They became politicians and media personalities and corporate flunkies and whatever passed for journalists. They became board members of foundations and literally wrote the text books used by their fellow travelers who’d become teachers in classrooms across the country.


And so here we are today… Not surprisingly, after these hippy fans of Marx and Lenin and Castro spent decades teaching America’s youth that the United States is evil and racist to its core, the youth have little respect for anything, much less their country. But more importantly, they have no awareness of context and history and reality. That Thomas Jefferson might have been a great if flawed man… Nope. That Gone with the Wind or Adventures of Huckleberry Finn might be masterpieces of literature despite their decidedly “unwoke” themes… Nope. That St. Louis might have been in the middle of a known world war when he led the Crusades… Doesn’t matter. That men can’t actually have babies… Scoff. Ronald Reagan once said: “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

And that is what makes the current generation of people wreaking havoc in the streets so stupid. Not because they can’t score well on the SAT, because they can – which like so much else in America these days has been watered down to almost irrelevancy – but because they refuse to see what’s right in front of them. Venezuela and Cuba are “worker’s paradises” but both are economic trainwrecks caused by socialism. Yet somehow these young people seek to take the United States down that same path. They are out in the streets protesting the death of a tiny handful of black men at the hands of police while black men kill 8,000 fellow black men every year. Activists and anarchists claim they want to remove monuments of a racist past yet they destroy statues of giants in the battle against slavery like Lincoln, Grant and Douglass. They decry capitalism but are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they live in a world of mobile phones, the Internet, Uber and Amazon that capitalism built.

That the imbecilic BLM and Antifa thugs currently seeking to erase history and destroy the country are the progeny begotten by the Greatest Generation brings to mind a quote from author G. Michael Hopf in Those Who Remain: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” In their desire to give their children and grandchildren better lives than they had to endure, the Greatest Generation created two generations of idiots not smart enough to recognize that in the lottery of life they have been gifted the Golden Ticket.

It’s only because they’ve had life so good that they have the luxury of excoriating the country in the first place… Rather than being caught up in the many wars that crisscross Africa or living daily with the threat of starvation or the lopping off of limbs, they can craft the fiction of “institutional racism”. Rather than being shot or have tanks roll over them for speaking “Truth to power”, they can put on their Che Guevera tee shirts grab their skateboards and scream “[bleep] the Police” while firebombing police stations secure in the notion that they’re unlikely to face any consequences. And on the off chance they did face the possibility of consequences for their actions, they’re confident in the notion that they’ll have an army of empty headed Hollywood and Twitter personalities ready to raise money for their defense and turn them into martyrs for the cause. They can burn the flag, blockade highways, tear down statues and vandalize churches and monuments, comfortable knowing the protections afforded by the very system they want to destroy will likely protect them from harm.

That so many Democrat politicians across the country have thrown in with and knelt down with these modern day Jacobins and sans-culottes, and allowed so much of our history to be destroyed will one day be written about as a turning point in American history. It will be the beginning of a revolution… either one in which real Americans decide to take back their history from the Stalinists running academia, the media, Silicon Valley and increasingly, “woke” corporations; or one in which the “woke” Democrats prevail in November and set about destroying the Constitution and the killing the goose that laid the golden eggs they have been eating their entire lives. One will see a free United States leading a the world as the 21st century unfolds while the other will see the world collapse into a fire of war as the world’s beacon of freedom, prosperity and strength is replaced with a fascist state wrapped around a Zimbabwe like economic disaster. Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does" and that's exactly what the country is looking at as the progeny of the Greatest Generation destroy the very legacy that was built for them. Hell is after all, paved with good intentions.




Bash the boomers all you want. If you were my sole heir, my sole "boomer' estate would be piled on a brushpile before I died and burned before you inherited a penny of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Since we're so stupid and all. Idiot
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Good people of any age can always be found.


The Greatest Generation raised an awful lot of great kids.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Good people of any age can always be found.


The Greatest Generation raised an awful lot of great kids.


That's a nice thing to say.
I notice a lot of people on here bitch about how spoiled kids are these days. Then I see those people asking "which car should I buy for my daughter" and "which 1000.00 rifle/shotgun with what 500.00 scope should I buy my son".
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A lot of events led up to what happened in the 60s.
More than anything, the government wouldn't leave war alone. The American government had a lot of success waging war in the first half of the 20th century so it just decided that war was going to be its business.
People got tired of it.
I really believe had we not attacked Spain and stayed out of WW1 there wouldn't have been a WW2 thrust upon us. And we would be by far the wealthiest nation on earth, and not trillions and trillions in hock to the international banks that now pull our strings. Also the greatest generation allowed hard money done away with and the ruinous social programs of the 30s and 40s. What is happening today has been purposeful and in the works for a long time.
We also do not let kids handle real jobs until they are 16. Legally I can no hire a kid to mow my lawn. Then we expect them to wake up with a work ethic on their 16th birthday.

Kids growing up on ranches in this region do know how to work, and are constantly being called by others to see if they have some free time. Not much demand for townie kids.
The common thread through all these generations mentioned is the ever present guiding hand of the progressive movement, incrementally nudging the country farther away from the founding principles, farther from the nuclear family, farther from American exceptionalism, farther from individual accountability, farther from fiscal responsibility and farther from God. Regardless of the generation, the greatest, the baby boomers, gen X, millennials, we're missing the forest for the trees. The progressive movement has been on a slow, incremental path of destruction of every fiber of our nation's core fabric for 100 years now. What you see on TV every day is the result of that labor.
There were at least one, and in many cases two, generations between the “greatest generation” and the pieces of shixt causing the problems now. To blame the current problems on “the greatest generation” is a false concept.
Hard times create hard men.
Hard men create easy times.
Easy times create soft men.
Soft men create hard times.
Originally Posted by T LEE



Right on the money, bur then some of us grew up on farms anyway and weren't "Infected".



I think you're onto something. BTW: Good to see you posting. The voice in my head are all scrambling to say Hi!

Farms are a key in this. I watched the end of my grandfather's generation (born in 1902) retire out of the workforce. That was the last of those who grew up when there were more farmers than others. Grandpa got off the farm, went to college, and never wanted to go back. My dad also grew up, at least partly, on a farm. I watched their decision-making skills and compare them to what has come after, and I am bewildered.

I grew up in the suburbs. 20 years ago we got a farm outside of town. That experience has dramatically changed my way of looking at the world. The farm is not working. We just use it on weekends. However, I've noticed over the years how it has changed my relationships with co-workers and changed my attitudes.

There are basic truths that are hidden from you when you're living outside of town. There are a lot more life-and-death experiences. There are greater needs for learning to do what is right, and not doing what is unnecessary. I could go on for hours describing what I've seen and done in 20 years, but for those of you who are living outside of town, I'll sound like a moron. For those of you who stay in town, I'd be making even less sense. Bottom line: life outside of town requires skills that lead to better perceptions and decision-making-- either that, or you end up dead in a variety of ways.

I'll give you an example. I tell folks that I'm an acorn farmer, and that we have discovered a unique way of harvesting the acorns. We let the deer and turkey hoover them up and then I invite my family and friends to harvest the deer and turkey. Folks who live outside of town, catch the humor. On the other hand, I've said this to managers who grew up in the suburbs and the response is invariably "You eat the acorns after they've been pooped out of a deer?" These were the same managers that had a $10 mil overrun on a $2mil project.
Better watch out! Saint Judes is looking better by day. Piss me off and you will get nothing?
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by 2ndwind

How the greatest generation begat the stupidest


As a matter of logic, if they begat the “stupidest generation” there is no possible way they were the “greatest generation.”

It’s not possible... but then I don’t believe in the “greatest generation” myth...


Agree wholeheartedly, I've been saying this for years. My parents were part of the so-called greatest generation; although if the term had been coined while they were alive, I don't think they would have embraced it. I came of age during the hippie days and there was no way my folks would have tolerated that kind of behavior out of me. It seems there were some in that generation who got all of the discipline they wanted while they were in the armed services, and decided to forego disciplining the children they had after the war. Those undisciplined kids, the hippies, became undisciplined parents and spawned the undisciplined kids on the streets now. No discipline imposed when one is young leads to no self discipline when one gets older.

A lot of it comes down to a failure of leadership: in the home, in the church, in businesses, in sports, and in government.

Originally Posted by ironbender
There were at least one, and in many cases two, generations between the “greatest generation” and the pieces of shixt causing the problems now. To blame the current problems on “the greatest generation” is a false concept.


Today's problems would have been visited upon us eventually, but that generation played a big role in accelerating the process. In the same way, we can't blame LBJ for liberalism, but he accelerated its effects with the Great Society programs. I don't see how one can deny that the actions (or lack thereof) of one generation don't have an impact on future events.
Originally Posted by ironbender
There were at least one, and in many cases two, generations between the “greatest generation” and the pieces of shixt causing the problems now. To blame the current problems on “the greatest generation” is a false concept.


I was born in 1937 and my kids and grandkids are doing just fine. Only problem with my grandkids is that there ain't enough of them.
The worst president this country ever had was fdr!!! BY FAR
Originally Posted by boatammo
The worst president this country ever had was fdr!!! BY FAR



Uuhhhh, no.
The premise of the article is simplistic and socialist in nature, as it ascribes everything to sociological causes. This is a huge error in reasoning. Yes, sociology is one factor, as someone said that the Boomers were the first to complete public education en masse in the US. I've studied the "greatest generation" quite a bit, and I've decided that they were simply not. Neither were their parents. The agenda that has recently reached fruition is called "progressivism", and it is about 125 years old. All of the generations born since the Civil War participated in and supported this agenda. They LET us get into two world wars, several "police actions" and oversaw the invasion of over 60 nations by US intelligence and military forces. They oversaw the institution of the Federal Reserve, which handed the money over to a private banking system that we all pay interest to. They oversaw the implementation of the Federal Education System, which is simply an indoctrination system, based on the works of socialists in the 1800's from the Frankfurt School. There is nothing great about these people of the past. This is all a myth.
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.
Originally Posted by Backroads
Hard times create hard men.
Hard men create easy times.
Easy times create soft men.
Soft men create hard times.


Or this .........

Hard times create conservatives.

Conservatives create good times.

Good times create liberals.

Liberals create hard times
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.

Right. Those wars (and women voting) caused a huge social upheaval in this country and changed it in many ways for the worse. The population became much more urbanized and dependent on government. Social Security and farm subsidies came to be expected. Elderly and sick family were put off on government charity. Public debt has been run up with abandon to the glee of the central bank. At least since the 1920s this nations population has been financing itself by mortgaging the farm (our country) not unlike some families I've seen come into property and inherited money, and lose it all.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The premise of the article is simplistic and socialist in nature, as it ascribes everything to sociological causes. This is a huge error in reasoning. Yes, sociology is one factor, as someone said that the Boomers were the first to complete public education en masse in the US. I've studied the "greatest generation" quite a bit, and I've decided that they were simply not. Neither were their parents. The agenda that has recently reached fruition is called "progressivism", and it is about 125 years old. All of the generations born since the Civil War participated in and supported this agenda. They LET us get into two world wars, several "police actions" and oversaw the invasion of over 60 nations by US intelligence and military forces. They oversaw the institution of the Federal Reserve, which handed the money over to a private banking system that we all pay interest to. They oversaw the implementation of the Federal Education System, which is simply an indoctrination system, based on the works of socialists in the 1800's from the Frankfurt School. There is nothing great about these people of the past. This is all a myth.


The boomers were not the first to compete public schooling.Far from it.
Saying that the Japs and Germans LET us into the War is beyond stupid.
But no more stupid than saying that we oversaw the invasion of over 60 nations.
We also won the Cold War. Thank God for those Generations.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.

Right. Those wars (and women voting) caused a huge social upheaval in this country and changed it in many ways for the worse. The population became much more urbanized and dependent on government. Social Security and farm subsidies came to be expected. Elderly and sick family were put off on government charity. Public debt has been run up with abandon to the glee of the central bank. At least since the 1920s this nations population has been financing itself by mortgaging the farm (our country) not unlike some families I've seen come into property and inherited money, and lose it all.


My great uncle managed a poor farm in Illinois.Social Security is a far, far better deal.
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.
The stupid generation was not parented by the greatest generation, there were a couple of generations between during which traditional values were being steadily eroded. The acceptance of the break up of the nuclear family, single mothers, sexual liberation, drugs and the welfare/public assistance culture had a lot to do with the stupidest generation coming to be.
They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

Originally Posted by ERK
They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

Originally Posted by ERK
They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.


Very true. The first generation to collect it never paid in anything and many of the second probably never paid itto it what they collected. It's basically a ponzi scheme. I've paid into it for 27 years and from their calculations have another 24 before I can draw anything but doubt I'll ever see a dime out of it
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

Originally Posted by ERK
They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.
We held up our end they should hold up theirs.
I think we are finding out that socialism and the public debt that go with it is a very bad dead end road that leads downhill into a swamp. With no place to turn around or back out. It started a long time ago. Even before FDR. Think 1913 and the Federal Reserve Act. When FDR took office he found the nation's gold reserves were only sufficient to back 1/3 of the money issued by the Federal Reserve and that happened under Woodrow Wilson and 3 republican administrations. FDR should have had them tried and hung but he fell in there and made it worse.
I think the biggest problem has been that Conservatives have been intellectually & morally unequipped to fight the battles liberals have presented them with.

For instance, when a liberal says that the US has always been homophobic, what's the usual conservative reaction? "Well, no! That's just wrong! The US has always been the most accepting country in the World!" And then they go on to explain how it can't possibly be so. This opens up the liberals attack - "If the USA isn't homophobic, then you'll be fine with.. (laundry list of expanded rights & privileges for homosexuals). And of course, the conservative having painted themselves into a corner says "Sure. That's OK". So freedom and morality take yet another hit.

If instead the conservative had said "Damn straight the US has always stood against that perversion (or whatever the current liberal bludgeon is) and always will", we wouldn't have had to concede anything and we'd still have a sane society.
Regardless of the many reasons for why we’re here, the problem is that now that we’re here how do we get out? I only see one solution and it doesn’t involve the next election.
We could start by becoming the moral people that we want representing us.

Never concede things like the right of freedom of association, right of self defense, the right of the victor to rule, etc.

In short, never, EVER apologize to liberals and never, EVER go along with their fundamentally flawed outlook. When they say "injustice" say "suck it up buttercup and learn to work within the system".

If they say "racist" or "sexist" or whatever, say "So what?"
Originally Posted by Tyrone
We could start by becoming the moral people that we want representing us.

Never concede things like the right of freedom of association, right of self defense, the right of the victor to rule, etc.

In short, never, EVER apologize to liberals and never, EVER go along with their fundamentally flawed outlook. When they say "injustice" say "suck it up buttercup and learn to work within the system".


Sorry, responded to the wrong thread... nevermind
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Sorry, responded to the wrong thread... nevermind
LOL! laugh
Originally Posted by gunswizard
The stupid generation was not parented by the greatest generation, there were a couple of generations between during which traditional values were being steadily eroded. The acceptance of the break up of the nuclear family, single mothers, sexual liberation, drugs and the welfare/public assistance culture had a lot to do with the stupidest generation coming to be.


First thing I thought. There are at least two between in most families.
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by 2ndwind

How the greatest generation begat the stupidest


As a matter of logic, if they begat the “stupidest generation” there is no possible way they were the “greatest generation.”

It’s not possible... but then I don’t believe in the “greatest generation” myth...


I hear you and don't either. There were a lot of commies in that generation teaching baby boomers in the colleges to be commies. George McGovern fought in WW2, for instance. Being born into a generation or serving in a particular war does not guarantee that a person can't be evil or an idiot or both.
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.



One point is the key term. Try to keep up and don't go full Vagisil.
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?



Cash your SS check and give it to your kids.
Now, not later.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?



Cash your SS check and give it to your kids.
Now, not later.


Agreed with Blackheart, I turn 66 next week and start receiving benefits next month. Paid into it since I started working in High School so not a bit of f...king guilt here.

Agreed with OldToot also.....I will be contributing some of it to my grandkids 529 college funds. I guess I'm just one of those "stupid boomers" that like to help out my kids as I can.

And I'll still be doing contract work and paying into the system.

I've heard it called "White Priviledge".
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.



One point is the key term. Try to keep up and don't go full Vagisil.

Wipe tha’ dirt outta your cooter and try to tie that thing up .
Participation in social security by us old bastards was not optional...mandatory. Also we were told early on that there was a social security 'fund'. There may have been, in the beginning, but it went away long ago. It wasn't the stupid blue collar hard workers like myself that managed to piss it all away in epic proportions. The Great Society, the Viet Nam war, the space program to the tune of 19 billion a year average, that never returned one cent to Willy the welder or Joe the plumber. So don't you try to guilt me for drawing that SS check, I didn't rob the system, Ponzi did.
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