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Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

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The stupid generation was not parented by the greatest generation, there were a couple of generations between during which traditional values were being steadily eroded. The acceptance of the break up of the nuclear family, single mothers, sexual liberation, drugs and the welfare/public assistance culture had a lot to do with the stupidest generation coming to be.

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They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

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They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

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They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.


Very true. The first generation to collect it never paid in anything and many of the second probably never paid itto it what they collected. It's basically a ponzi scheme. I've paid into it for 27 years and from their calculations have another 24 before I can draw anything but doubt I'll ever see a dime out of it

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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

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They would not have to finance us if the money had not been stolen for other things by politicians. I paid my fine my whole life. Should I not expect what they said was rightfully mine. I guess if you have some kind of outrageous retirement it doesn’t matter but a lot of people do not. Ya I’ve heard all the bs about life decisions but sometimes that’s nonsense. Ed k

We paid for the previous generation's benefits. We were not paying into our retirement. It's a contract between generations. The most optimistic predictions are that the system will be broke by 2034. I imagine my 30 to 36 year old kids aren't feeling good about paying you or me. Contracts can be broken and it's about time to break or seriously adjust this one. Sorry.
We held up our end they should hold up theirs.

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I think we are finding out that socialism and the public debt that go with it is a very bad dead end road that leads downhill into a swamp. With no place to turn around or back out. It started a long time ago. Even before FDR. Think 1913 and the Federal Reserve Act. When FDR took office he found the nation's gold reserves were only sufficient to back 1/3 of the money issued by the Federal Reserve and that happened under Woodrow Wilson and 3 republican administrations. FDR should have had them tried and hung but he fell in there and made it worse.


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I think the biggest problem has been that Conservatives have been intellectually & morally unequipped to fight the battles liberals have presented them with.

For instance, when a liberal says that the US has always been homophobic, what's the usual conservative reaction? "Well, no! That's just wrong! The US has always been the most accepting country in the World!" And then they go on to explain how it can't possibly be so. This opens up the liberals attack - "If the USA isn't homophobic, then you'll be fine with.. (laundry list of expanded rights & privileges for homosexuals). And of course, the conservative having painted themselves into a corner says "Sure. That's OK". So freedom and morality take yet another hit.

If instead the conservative had said "Damn straight the US has always stood against that perversion (or whatever the current liberal bludgeon is) and always will", we wouldn't have had to concede anything and we'd still have a sane society.


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Regardless of the many reasons for why we’re here, the problem is that now that we’re here how do we get out? I only see one solution and it doesn’t involve the next election.

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We could start by becoming the moral people that we want representing us.

Never concede things like the right of freedom of association, right of self defense, the right of the victor to rule, etc.

In short, never, EVER apologize to liberals and never, EVER go along with their fundamentally flawed outlook. When they say "injustice" say "suck it up buttercup and learn to work within the system".

If they say "racist" or "sexist" or whatever, say "So what?"


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
We could start by becoming the moral people that we want representing us.

Never concede things like the right of freedom of association, right of self defense, the right of the victor to rule, etc.

In short, never, EVER apologize to liberals and never, EVER go along with their fundamentally flawed outlook. When they say "injustice" say "suck it up buttercup and learn to work within the system".


Sorry, responded to the wrong thread... nevermind

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Sorry, responded to the wrong thread... nevermind
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Originally Posted by gunswizard
The stupid generation was not parented by the greatest generation, there were a couple of generations between during which traditional values were being steadily eroded. The acceptance of the break up of the nuclear family, single mothers, sexual liberation, drugs and the welfare/public assistance culture had a lot to do with the stupidest generation coming to be.


First thing I thought. There are at least two between in most families.


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Originally Posted by Brad
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How the greatest generation begat the stupidest


As a matter of logic, if they begat the “stupidest generation” there is no possible way they were the “greatest generation.”

It’s not possible... but then I don’t believe in the “greatest generation” myth...


I hear you and don't either. There were a lot of commies in that generation teaching baby boomers in the colleges to be commies. George McGovern fought in WW2, for instance. Being born into a generation or serving in a particular war does not guarantee that a person can't be evil or an idiot or both.

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Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.



One point is the key term. Try to keep up and don't go full Vagisil.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?



Cash your SS check and give it to your kids.
Now, not later.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?
I've been financing others old age all my life. I'm not going to feel guilty when It's my turn to collect.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?



Cash your SS check and give it to your kids.
Now, not later.


Agreed with Blackheart, I turn 66 next week and start receiving benefits next month. Paid into it since I started working in High School so not a bit of f...king guilt here.

Agreed with OldToot also.....I will be contributing some of it to my grandkids 529 college funds. I guess I'm just one of those "stupid boomers" that like to help out my kids as I can.

And I'll still be doing contract work and paying into the system.

I've heard it called "White Priviledge".


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Originally Posted by RemModel8
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Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

It was a necessity at one point during the War.



One point is the key term. Try to keep up and don't go full Vagisil.

Wipe tha’ dirt outta your cooter and try to tie that thing up .


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Participation in social security by us old bastards was not optional...mandatory. Also we were told early on that there was a social security 'fund'. There may have been, in the beginning, but it went away long ago. It wasn't the stupid blue collar hard workers like myself that managed to piss it all away in epic proportions. The Great Society, the Viet Nam war, the space program to the tune of 19 billion a year average, that never returned one cent to Willy the welder or Joe the plumber. So don't you try to guilt me for drawing that SS check, I didn't rob the system, Ponzi did.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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