Have any of you been surprised at your kid’s (young adult) political viewpoint on all the things going on in America right now?

No. My boy knows about responsibility and accountability.



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Yes. Kid is behind anyone offering free stuff.

Mine has his head on pretty straight at 30 years old.

nope,not yet,they've been pretty good so far,but I do worry a little about the college atmosphere getting to them.

It is kind of hard when they keep dangling that carrot in front of them.

Not really, both of mine have had an independent streak since very young. Nobody could tell either one much without some really, really sound reasoning. My daughter’s third grade teacher told me I wouldn’t have to worry about that one, she was immune to peer pressure.

Kept me on my toes, both of them, because “because I said so” had no lasting effect...

My son just turned 18. Solid conservative, as are his buddies.

My son gets it...politically he is to the right of John Birch, but then he claims there is no point in voting as a resident of Calif. since the Mexicans became the majority after the failed Gov Scwartzenegger, our last and worst Republican Gov. Infuriates me, I holler, he digs in his heels...now, it's the elephant in the room at family dinners and campouts..neither of us mention it in the interest of family harmony.
I just don't know what can be said.

My daughter doesn't pay much attention to politics and what's going on with the country, my son on the other hand married a trump hating liberal, and now he thinks he has it all figured out, but he has not a clue.

Sadly, my young girls fall for every sob story the Left throws out. They were taught better, but kids are bombarded from every angle on social media with Leftist propaganda. It is driving me crazy trying to get through to them with all the outside noise. The Left is insidious and knows peer pressure is strong among kids. They are being indoctrinated and I hope they will open their eyes as they mature.

I was born in 83 which makes me younger than most here. I turned out more conservative than my republican parents. As did all of my friends. Depends a lot on where you are from and where you go to school etc imho

My kids are only 7 and 9, but they understand that Democrats will take their money and give to people too lazy to work.

Four years of college turned our daughter against anything decent. I no longer recommend college. It’s four years of the worst propaganda imaginable.

When my boys were very very young we play a game called malarkey.

I would make up some nonsense that they would want to be true but they knew it was not.

Something like... One out of every ten chicken eggs has candy in it.

Played it for years and years.

Since then they've been pretty good at being able to spot BS.

Same here - very proud.

The wife and I made it a point to bring our kids up knowing how to survive and make their own way. both son 28 yrs and daughter 25 yrs have married good level headed others and they all are conservatives. now they are converting others their age. HA! when they were young I wondered about both of them , but they have made us proud as hell.

I'm 31, and while I can't say there are more conservatives in my age group, I can assure you that the ones that are conservative are much more hardcore in their beliefs than in older generations. Take that FWIW.

My children are at least as conservative as I am, all four are college graduates, one engineer, one attorney. One PhD and one MS.

My daughter's starting her second year at college. She said she's coming home as much as possible because "everyone that goes there is an idiot liberal"

My son is certainly more conservative that most people he knows (he lives on the West Coast) but he says we’re making a mistake not backing Antifa because we have a common enemy - corrupt gov’t.

I told him that might be true, but I’ll never turn my back on a commie because I’ll get a knife in it.

Nope, both kids were raised and taught to be self reliant, Both are solid conservatives and will be for their entire lives.

My boy would rather slap a liberal than to look at one.

I think my mother is surprised in me. I am not sure why. She taught me not to expect handouts, to work for what I get and to be responsible and accountable, She can not understand why I am not a democrap.

I kinda get his sentiment, but he's simply wrong. The enemy of my enemy can still be my enemy as well. Thats been the hot topic on "libertarian" forums today, and that is the general consensus. F*** those commies, they want big .gov, and now they're getting it.

Edit to add, I'm speaking of the supposed "kidnappings by secret Feds" taking place in the northwest.

My adult sons and my grandsons are staunch conservatives....well, one adult son is very libertarian. My stepsons, 17 and 18, are very conservative as, apparently, are most of their friends.

You know I have to laugh...back when I was in college I was a frequent of this group. Different user name as emails etc have changed over the years but I find that funny. I was on the old marlin talk board starting when I was maybe 14 or 15...graybeard outdoors etc.

Always into guns and outdoors. I think I credit that with my beliefs more than anything perhaps

Doesn't surprise me, I'm a "native" as well, and although I'm a bit older than your grandsons, myself and most of my buddies, as well as guys on the job in the same age bracket fit that description.

Not at all.
My son is just about 15 1/2 and has already had it out with several teachers on their ultra-liberal stances. He's smart enough to keep just inside of 'professional ' and his work is at a level where they can't hurt his grades.
His Trump sticker on his school laptop has drawn some looks travelling, but he cares about strangers ' opinions about as much as I do.

George

No, I raised them right.

Not at all.

By and large, I agree with your sentiments. But there are also plenty of them (us) who are purely concerned with Liberty, IE, the very folks who fought the Revolutionary War.

The only arch-conservative I got in the next generation is a nephew on my Ex’s side who just graduated high school.

My own son and my nephews on my side are more middle of the road, the sort who decide elections.

OUTSTANDING COMMENT!!

I aint doubting you, but I find it HARD to believe that there is anyone undecided on their vote at this point in America.

May God bless and keep him and all who are like him.

I would never compare a libertarian of today to people that fought during the revolutionary war.
That is a huge insult to those Patriots
And putting both into the same context as a comparison is wrong..
Almost sounds like a catch phrase comparison for some to proclaim for relevancy.
To each their own I geuss.
Not trying to slam what you said .
But the analogy is weak.

JMO....



2 words

ROSS PEROT.
The mordern libertarian poster child that got it rolling to this day.
The swing/ independent voter movement really took hold with him

evenone that voted for him...
Got us 8 yrs of clinton and everything associated with that schit show....

Yaayyyy
We Libertarians/Independants got recognized by Perot .
He told us what we wanted to hear, cherry picking down the middle of the row.


Comparable to the fools who voted Camelot in 60 and Great Society in 64 that layed the foundation of todays schit show.
All of those people still alive today who voted for those 3 and throw in Peanut Boy also.

Need to OWN what they caused with their votes.......

Thanks Dikheads........



JMO........

These little l libertarians nowadays are a far cry from that. Most are waaay to the right of the average "conservative",which IMO is too far left currently. No way I'm voting for Jorgenson, their candidate, but if I did, I'd evidently have 3 votes: one for her, one for Trump, and one for Biden. That should tell a thinking man something.

no

The ones where I know how they voted voted against Hillary, these same people thought Obama was not all that bad of a President. Probably as they get older they will turn more Conservative, my own brother has done a 180 in his lifetime.

Young people of all persuasions are notoriously unreliable voters, I’d guess many of my 12 nephews and nieces have yet to vote at all.

My daughter asked me today about the gov rumors of people being disappeared in Seattle I think it was by unmarked feds. She read it and was on it before I was keen to the news.

lol

I told her like North Korean type chit? lol

She said yeah

We laughed


Then had some ice cream

It aint even close to that. The media did attempt a spin in that direction, but it is widely known now that DHS is the agency involved, and the "undisclosed" location is the Fed
courthouse a few blocks away.

If your kid attended public school, nobody should be surprised.

Kids, no. Grandkids, definitely!

No offense to you in re your son, but anyone that is sympathetic to antifa hasn't got a clue. Is antifa a big thing up there?

If you don't take the time to talk and teach your kids to counter the public school influence you shouldn't bitch about their opinions or political leanings.

Fully aware of it man....

Hard Liberal Socialist Democrats leaners with b type personalities blending comfortably into the background basically.

When things affect them or their money .
Is when it matters to them.

Said it initially ...

I got a former USMC cousin close to 10 years older ‘n me joined the Marines on purpose so he could go see combat in Vietnam, so did his best friend. When they got back they married each other’s sisters and formed a sort of Redneck super-family up in rural New England. Both these guys voted for Perot. One became a Democrat State Senator for a while.

When their own sons were of age and went in the Service they insisted they avoid Infantry and go with something where they could most likely avoid direct combat.

Pretty sure both of these guys are gonna vote against Biden or whoever the Dems put forward.

Amen.

Its a nothing burger.
The dik heads are being observed and detained for prior acts concerning federal ground and infrastructure
And when they get close enough the be detained they are snagged up.eivei

Habeus Corpus has not been abolished.....

These little diks know why they are being detained and their own actions that caused it.

The media is hyping this schit.
Cause your average sheeple believes what Rachel Maddow says and the trendy relating way she talks to fuggtards of all ages from the Liberal Socialist Democrat party.

I'm sure a lot of people would be surprised at my kids' political opinions.

Hey aside from all this political talk.

You or anyone your know ever found Megaladon shark teeth along the Pee Dee river?????

Renegade,

I'm with ya now. Your assessment of the actual Libertarian party is dead on, as it is about half full of those folks you mention. Its hard for me to fault a man for voting his conscience, but I can fault them for not voting Reality.

When you were in high school did you hang on your teachers’ every word?

I sure didn’t, neither have my students.

Compared to parents (if they have any worth the name) and their especially their smartphones, teachers come in a distant third, if that. Those who become screaming Libs in college were leaning that when before they enrolled.

JMHO

Worked in civil engineering Inspection, and have seen a few come up when guys were drilling wells for municipal water towers. Plenty of "regular" shark teeth as well. One of my friends found about a dozen in a creek bed on the edge of town when we were kids, they are now in the local university's collection.

Edit to add: had one old well driller from Florida show me pics of his Megalodon collection, found from Florida to NC, and it was pretty impressive.

When/where I went to high achool, teachers were more than willing to share opinions and debate. They didn't preach and certainly didn't attempt to hold us in contempt for our views.
That attitude has become less and less 'standard' with each passing year. I taught The Boy that it's nothing but a life lesson: he will have coworkers and bosses that are shamelessly liberal, and you have to learn how to phouck with them and keep it within bounds. He's taken to it rather well, given what he (and some of his peers) have told me.

So...
You prove my point.
Perfect example of cherry picking/Flip flopping.
Where ever the wind goes and least affected
Personal and money wise.

Anyone that works and or pays taxes would be a fool to vote for a Liberal Socialist Democrat.

If a Liberal Socialist Democrat had one huge thing that would benefit them , they would turn a blind eye to all else that person stood for and become a 1 issue voter for that Liberal Socialist Democrat .

My kids are 43, 37, and 36. They, and their spouses all recognize our tax burden, and they are all Trump voters.

My Grandkids are all minors, but that does not keep them from wearing Trump T shirts, and ball caps.

I have nothing to be surprised about.

Only ones I listened too were ones with real life experience.
Not raised from kindergarten to Career in " Academia".

Unfortunately too many hold academia in awe.
One of the effects of the GI BILL after WW2 and the growth of colleges from federal funding.....

Well my 28 year old as conservative as Cruz

24 year old step daughter way too far left
I really didn't expect this

20 year old step son I think moving right
Hank

My fathers side of the family in Maine.
The non Morrison side of my entire family.

Fugging Liberal Socialist Democrats.....


Even as a kid , I knew most of em were D bag 02 theifs.....

I tell them they can have any opinion they want, just be able to defend it with logic. Needless to say the Conservative-leaning ones are far more articulate when it comes down to that.

When they ask me how I voted I tell them I ain’t gonna say, they have to make up their own minds.

Ah shucks

I was hoping ANTIFA were getting swooped up, popped and dumped

I used to find Megs when I lived in Savannah, in the road cuts and borrow fill

Got some around here somewhere, in one of them boxes’

Grins!!!

Slumlord,

That's awesome. I've got some sort of "fossilized plant" I've found along the river, a few bits of potery, and some halfass arrowheads as well. I'll try to dig them out. One of my great uncles farmed a 100 or so acre plot along the "little" river, and had the most impressive arrowhead/pottery collection I've seen to this day. Dont know what became of it, he passed when I was a boy, and his son, my "cousin" Mr. Norman, (sr-71 pilot, 50 or so years my senior) a few years back.

I need to slide out my dad’s frames one day and get some pics put up.

All mostly coastal Florida stuff.

Be interesting to see!

ANTIFA members oppose libertarian views and in fact they despise free will and embrace mob mentality. They all hate work ethic, individuality, free speech, capitalism, success, the constitution, are very racist in their views etc. They are pure anarchists in that want to destroy everything with no will or plan desire to rebuild. They're violent crazy, lazy, spoiled, narcicists, immature children that make a mess and move on to their next target. Almost all have daddy issues.

To say teachers don't have an impact on young minds is ludicrous. When libtard shidteating America hating teachers insinuate their evil into their lesson plans it's like hiding onions in the spaghetti sauce. Little at a time...... And for anyone to say they don't, well ignorance is bliss.

My own approach to my kids has been to present both sides and let them pick. I didn't wan them to leave the house regurgitating what I told them. It was crucial they came to the point of enlightenment on their own. So far so good in most respects.

I just spit out a conservative mechanical engineer from Texas A&M. What was she studying?

I just spit out a conservative mechanical engineer from Texas A&M. What was she studying?
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Nothing that involves math or science

Great, now she'll figure out a way to keep my grubby paws off the oil filter of the '22 truck I'll be buying in '30...

Somebody is going to influence kids. Somebody influenced...YOU!
Got your mind to thinking the way you do. (Don't like that, do ya?)


Been pointing things out since my oldest was in kindergarten during the 2008 primaries.

Eating supper, Mom and I talking politics, she said "I want the girl to win".
I said "Jenna, do you know what she believes? She believes that if a woman has a baby
she doesn't want..."

"You mean like the one in Mommies belly".

"Yep"

A few minutes later, my 5 year old said,
"Dad, couldn't they just give thems babies to someone that wants them?"

Wow!

She went on to have that discussion with her Pro-Hitlery teacher!
(Damn right I'm bragging)

No, neither her nor her 13 year old sister surprise me.

I have two daughters and a stepdaughter. A 29-39 -34 years old. All pro Trump and can’t stand the crap going on. A 48 gay stepson goes the other way. Go figure. Ed k

Bingo.

If you're looking from Sarasota down through Venice, and on down to Fort Myers area, It's hard not to find them.

I am both validated/proud & disappointed with some the political & cultural views of my kids (31 & 25). I am very happy and gratified that both are staunch supporters of the 2nd Amendment...that wasn't easy for them experiencing the K-12 screwling they received along with attending a very liberal University. Both earned Bachelor's degrees. Along the way they developed some decidedly liberal cultural views that mystify me. Those views are an order of magnitude different than mine or my wife's. I chalk it up to the constant indoctrination by the K-12 & higher education teachers/professors. Additionally, but just as critical, is the never to be underestimated socialization that affects everyone lucky enough to live through puberty and adolescence. My wife and I led mainly by example, but also incorporated discussions when interest was expressed in some facet of life.

I was when they were in high school.

Once they got to college/tech school, they all realized Dad was right after all.

At 50, I still have those moments.

Things Dad said, that were just wrong.
But now..Hmmmm!

One of those was the only career he ever really pushed me on.
Auctioneer.

What a gig.
Hire a cash goon platoon to prep for a couple days. Sell on Saturday.
Walk away with 10%+of what a couple spent a lifetime acquiring.

Not surprised at all. My kids were raised right and have more than half a brain.

Interesting to me that hardly anyone mentions Smartpones on these threads, where most kids spend ALL the friggin’ day, watching YouTube’s, movies, porn and listening to music.

My son is self employed and is a hard core conservative that will tell it like he sees it. My daughter is a school teacher working on her masters in business administration and wants to become a school superintendent. She is a conservative but won't post anything on Facebook or Twitter and is even worried that her CC permit is going to cause her problems in the future. Actions speak louder than words, but the battle of words is lost and our inaction is going to cost US the country. Maybe it Trump looses in November he'll lead US in the fight to taking back our country.

Maybe if Trump looses in November, he'll lead us in the fight to taking back our country.

Where did you come up with this B.S.? #1 Trump is not going to loose. #2 What the hell do you think he is doing now? Pay attention ! Rio7

I'm paying real good attention, the China BS has cost me 62 % of my income. You don't just let freeloaders and deadbeats parade around rioting and looting other people's stuff....you arrest or kill them. Saw a picture of Trump wearing a mask yesterday, at least he can't suck a Willie for a vote with it on. I'd like to see another 4 years of Trump as POTUS. It would probably cost us our family business that we've had since 1938. But our future as the US of A would be brighter.

My kids are fine, but then they are 50 and 44, and we’re raised by me. 😜

my highly educated daughter, currently working on her phd, has much the same opinion as me. we're both disgusted by the representation we have but no way would either of us vote for any of the demo schitheads from the past several elections. my boys are pretty non-political but very pro-police and pro-america. the whole family thinks this blm rioting schit is out of control and needs stopped now.

For the vast majority of em .
It is their one and only real world to them.
Poor parenting junior aint bothering me schitt.
The electronic parent/ baby sitter get out of my hair kid device.
Variations of it since Tv
TV, Early 70,s vid games on it, Vhs, souped up vid games,
Computers, online gaming, smart phones.

The electronic activity parent.....

Many young people and adults only world since certain times and era,s of them being introduced to electronic devices while growing up.

Parents not balancing out schitt with their kids are too blame.
Most of those parents grew up with the VHS or earlier video game stuff on TV. Basically the summer vacation baby sitter to begin with.


JMO.....


Fugg ... even cats and dogs wanna fugg with computers and smart phones at times for attention and curiosity from humans using em.

I have two daughters, a married 27-year old who is a kindergarten teacher and a 23-year old who is about to enter her second year of law school (forensic chemistry undergrad degree). Both kids raised in a stable, Christian home, conservative financially and socially, with Republican parents. Older daughter and her husband are solid conservatives, she "gets" it. Younger one is liberal, supported Sanders in 2016, doesn't like Biden now but can't stand Trump. I think she was impacted a lot by liberal friends from high school and college, with whom she spends a lot more time with than us, her parents. So you just never know. I do keep telling her though, that in a couple years when she (hopefully) is working out in the real world and she sees how much of her income goes to taxes and then realizes what impact the Democrat tax and spend policies will have on her and her paycheck she'll come back to the center or even, the right!

Wrong in my case.

Zactly .....
Much depends on the Geo political area of the schools, and overall quality of parents.
Being exsposed to a broad spectrum can be good or bad.
Being counter balanced by good parenting on aspects can work.
Key words being good parenting......

It's not a locked in mantra broad brushed across the nation.

Many, but not all kids that are private schooled or home schooled are dysfunctional as hell also outside of their insulated and sheltered bringing up. And go batschyt crazy once on their own away from the protective wing.
Especially when they hit college and want acceptance and start hearing all the bullschitt for the 1st time. Then the parents become all despondent and wonder why the programmed and protected peice of clay turns 180 against everything they was allowed to be exposed to by them.

Not a broad brush statement.
But a JMO.....

All my kids are thinking WTH is going on. All boys 58 45 and 40.

From what I have seen of the indoctrination provided by primary educators.
No.

In a word, no. Of course he’s 50 years old and works currently for the DOD at the Marine corps base in Iwakuni Japan. He’s always had a good head on his shoulders and he and his wife have raised three great kids. I am very proud of him, and in my “old” age I am secure in the knowledge that there is still more of them in the world than the people trying to tear this country apart.

The thing that suprises me the most from both sons and both daughters-in-law, they all, across the board HATE Trump. However when you get them talking they actually agree with is policies and actions, or for the most part. When you ask them why they want him gone, it's always along the lines of "he's a jerk", well he is.
But when you ask policy based, they side more with R than D

This is what it is.....

He was on TV in the explosion of the age of everyone gets a trophy or ribbon playing soccor and grading on a curve.

The Celebrity Apprentice....

No pecking order type of schit in society
No punch in the face at recess stuff
Everyone is the " same" intelligence and ability wise.


Then comes along the Big mean Donnie on Tv for about a decade
Firing duds.
Chewing out their azz,s for failure.
Not giving em a 7th chance to attain the minimum standard
Let alone a 2nd....

Not offering extra credit points
Not allowing extra time.
Always expecting above the minimum standard and excellence.

So you take age groups from across the country watching that show
all along or hearing about it.

And they see how it applied to their inner core b type personalities being losers who had been accommodated in the ways the "Big Meanie Donnie " stood basically 100% against on the show.

Hence the hate against President Trump x 10,s of millions nationwide that exist and has been passed along generationally.




I should get paid for analysis like this...........

Music and entertainers, ‘Nother thing that influences your kids to dress and act like them.

I was a kid in the 60’s and 70’s, in the absence of the internet the music was an organizing force, for better or worse.

Son turned 29 last week, has 4 times the guns I do, works his azz off welding and is enjoying the good life[less the taxes paid and known freebies to slugs]

I think there is a lot of truth in these two statements. Trump is leading the populist/conservative movement from the White House. I dont think he realized how entrenched the globalist/communist movement was in our government and realized it would take more than four years to make substantive changes. He has had to move to the center to get re-elected. After the election he will have more latitude. Populist/conservatives need a strong leader and hopefully Trump will continue to lead the movement after he is out of the White House.

Shocked actually ! Can’t believe how conservative our 2 sons are.

Daughter must lean that way too, she keeps her head down at work on politics. It’s a liberal hot bed and most are visceral in their dislike for our prez.

I believe they’re like a lot of us, there’d be no better feeling paying our taxes if the same care for that money was taken with what we have to do with the leftovers after paying taxes.

My sons went to school in the SF Bay Area, Midland, Houston and Boerne Texas, Andover Kansas, Calgary (middle one graduated high school) and Brisbane Oz so lots of "diversity". It's the parenting more than anything. My wife, in particular, and I were on them. Youngest just finished school.

Our son's a responsible , hardworking 29 yro conservative.
He says there are a lot of young conservatives out there, that's good to know.

My kids are homeschooled. If you ask them about taxation they'll tell you taxation is theft without even thinking about it.

Two of my kids hardcore conservative.
One claims moderate, but is slowly going more right.

My wife and I celebrated our sixth anniversary yesterday. I didn't know her daughters until they were in their 20s.

There's no hope for them, they are permanently, stupidly, left of center. My wife didn't raise them that way, but that's how it is now. Neither of them has a clue, nor will they find one where they're looking.

Just so they figure out that it doesn't matter if they like him.


I often watch him on tv and look a my wife, "He is a smug SOB".
Truth is, he is a tough, abrasive [bleep] New Yorker. And I personally don't like that.
Another truth is the traditional "Statesman" approach hasn't worked.

The old saying about wrestling with pigs...

The thing is, Dems/press are the pigs.
If you are going to team with them, you need to get in the pen, and wade the [bleep].
Then you can grab 'Em, and nut them.

Trump has cut their nuts.

And that is what we need.

Effective, not friendly.

The whole reason I home school is to teach my kids how to think, not what to think. To each his own.

Clearly, CNN / MSNBC bubble dwellers. See it all the time. My sister, for instance. 30 yr LEO recently retired. Still drinking the dem kool-aid. JFK has been dead for a very long time.

Nope. We made it a priority for our kids to learn where money comes from and to think for themselves.

I felt a sense of pride a while back when my older son came home from college wearing a Trump t shirt and riding his Harley Davidson.

So far they’ve turned out a helluva lot better than I did.