The left scored a big win with there “protected classes” anyone ever notice how all of the protected classes basically protect lefties pet groups? If a right leaning business much less a mega corporation the size of Goodyear implemented a similar ban on blm slogan garbage not only would the left not put up with it and be outside of Goodyear headquarters right now “peacefully protesting” but they would also be likely using the courts to sue the fug out of them for discrimination of a protected class.
Appalling. An example of how the left has twisted traditional concepts such as fairness and equality into inequality in the name of "justice". Our forefathers wouldn't recognize America today. 1984 and Animal Farm are fiction become reality.
What's wrong with these corporations? Don't they know that BLM is communists who want to abolish our society? It says so in no uncertain words on the BLM web site.
The problem is, the fire in the African American Communities "house" was started by the African American Community. Not white America. Therein lies the problem. Your cartoon should show white america trying to put out a match flame in the corner, while the black community sits in the living room watching t.v. while the rest of the house goes up in flames. Less than 5% white on black homicide rate. 90% black on black homicide rate. If you want to be taken seriously, tackle the real problems in your community first, solve those. Systematic racism is a lie started by white liberal elites to control the large portion of society who refuses to take responsibility for their own well being. Like goosey.\
Claiming oppression is the cause of your poverty, crime, joblessness, basically, your failure at assimilating into a civilized free society, while every other group seperated by nationality, race, religion, etc.. doesn't suffer from the same fate, is admitting your own personal failure and obviously your own inferiority as collective group.
The problem is, the fire in the African American Communities "house" was started by the African American Community. Not white America. Therein lies the problem. Your cartoon should show white america trying to put out a match flame in the corner, while the black community sits in the living room watching t.v. while the rest of the house goes up in flames. Less than 5% white on black homicide rate. 90% black on black homicide rate. If you want to be taken seriously, tackle the real problems in your community first, solve those. Systematic racism is a lie started by white liberal elites to control the large portion of society who refuses to take responsibility for their own well being. Like goosey.\
Claiming oppression is the cause of your poverty, crime, joblessness, basically, your failure at assimilating into a civilized free society, while every other group seperated by nationality, race, religion, etc.. doesn't suffer from the same fate, is admitting your own personal failure and obviously your own inferiority as collective group.
Pretty much thought exactly the same thing.
If 95% of all fires are "black" fires... why wouldn't black people want their fires put out just like white fires?
The company was named after American Charles Goodyear, inventor of vulcanized rubber. The first Goodyear tires became popular because they were easily detachable and required little maintenance.[citation needed]
Goodyear is also known for supporting blm and discriminating against cops and Trump supporters. Though Goodyear had been manufacturing airships and balloons since the early 1900s, the first Goodyear advertising blimp flew in 1925.
WOW! Glad I saw this as I need a new set of tires for my 2017 F250 and Goodyear was on my short list. I guess my list just got one shorter!
Thanks for posting!
Elk Country
My old 2013 work truck came with Hankook tires'they were still on it at 77k when I retired. My personal F-150 had Goodyears on it from new, ride smooth, no flats , NO traction, about to the safety wear bars at 55k. Next ones will not be Goodyears period. MB
Boy I dodged a bullet. I just took the factory Goodyear off my truck and wanted to replace them with matching tires. My friend suggested avoiding GY. He is a manager of a discount tire. Said GY has had quality problems. I went with Continental, just found out last night one tire is bad and needs to be replaced.He ordered a replacement and should be ready to go. Otherwise very happy with my decision based on my driving habits.
So now we're left with Japanese, French, and Italians, I suppose.
Gee, I hope they don't need to call the cops or firefighters.
I picked up a set of hundred thousand mile Nokian passenger car tires a few years ago. It's quite possible they will exceed 100,000 miles. Very impressive tires.
I had a fair bit of good luck with Goodyear tires 20 or so years ago. But the last two sets I've bought in the last 8 years or so... have been rather pathetic.
They wear out very quickly it seems and I've had a tremendously disproportionate amount of bulges or other defects.
Even without their moronic political skullduggery I had already planned to never buy a Goodyear, Springfield or Dunlop product again.
The company was named after American Charles Goodyear, inventor of vulcanized rubber. The first Goodyear tires became popular because they were easily detachable and required little maintenance.[citation needed]
Goodyear is also known for supporting blm and discriminating against cops and Trump supporters. Though Goodyear had been manufacturing airships and balloons since the early 1900s, the first Goodyear advertising blimp flew in 1925.
What's wrongwith these cororations? Don't they know that BLM is communists who want to abolish our society? It says so in no uncertain words on the BLM web site.
Plus those fuggers don’t buy tires. They steal them.
This is outrageous. I just got on their website and sent them a email, telling them I will never again buy Goodyear tires. Also tried called their corporate headquarters ( 330-796-2121) to voice my concerns, but the line was busy. I hope everyone reading this will email and/or call them and let them know how you feel. If we flood their email and phone lines, then follow up by boycotting their tires maybe we can get OUR message across.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
I just put 4 Goodyear tires on my travel trailer, mainly because they were made in the USA. I won't be buying anymore from them unless they back off this stupidity. For the truck I have always preferred Goodrich.
I have a 12 months same as cash card I used to put tires on my wife’s mini van earlier this year. I sent them a note today and let them know I’ll be paying it off and closing it and never purchasing a Goodyear or affiliated product nor working with an affiliated service center again.
They’re free to make such restrictions upon their employees as a private business I don’t dispute that, but as a consumer I’m also feee to never give them a cent of my money again.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
Paul
Winner - Winner
It’s a shame that so many have no idea what the Constitution and the BOR says and what it means.
A company telling you what to say, on your own page/site, on your own time.............is BS.
Now............would a civil liberties lawyer help somebody in such?
Think they're (the companies) just trying to wet things down before Trump gets re-elected. Aint gonna matter, they're gonna burn chit no matter what. No. Civil Liberty is another term for Constitutional Rights.
This is not a BOR issue as the government or is agent are not involved.
If anything, it would fall under a Civil Rights Laws (which I doubt) not Civil Liberties.
I just sent them a message on their website stating all Goodyear tires are Banned from my vehicles from now on.
Just did the same. Also went to their website and it asked if I wanted to complete a survey telling about my experience at their site. Said sure, then ripped them in comments.
"To enable a work environment free of those, we ask that associates refrain from workplace expressions in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party, as well as similar forms of advocacythat fall outside the scope of racial justice and equity issues."
So "racial" and "sexual deviancy" fall inside their OK issues.
In other words, the slide is completely accurate and their denying it is B.S.
Clever. By including "forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of racial justice and equity issues" they are saying that BLM, etc., are not political and are, therefore, acceptable. All one has to do is look at the BLM platform to see that it is clearly political. Saying it isn't doesn't negate the fact.
They are almost certainly weaseling on the origin of the slide. Most likely hired a contractor to create the program, so the wording of their statement is literally true but doesn’t mean they weren’t in on it.
I can’t imagine some area manager in a tire plant going that far out on a limb, but who knows.
They are almost certainly weaseling on the origin of the slide. Most likely hired a contractor to create the program, so the wording of their statement is literally true but doesn’t mean they weren’t in on it.
I can’t imagine some area manager in a tire plant going that far out on a limb, but who knows.
Even if it was an area manager, they are still responsible. If they don't condone or support the slide, then they need to do some house cleaning. In the mean time, they need to feel the full financial hit they deserve.
They are almost certainly weaseling on the origin of the slide. Most likely hired a contractor to create the program, so the wording of their statement is literally true but doesn’t mean they weren’t in on it.
I can’t imagine some area manager in a tire plant going that far out on a limb, but who knows.
Even if it was an area manager, they are still responsible. If they don't condone or support the slide, then they need to do some house cleaning. In the mean time, they need to feel the full financial hit they deserve.
Area managers don't do anything unless corporate sanctions it.
First, the visual in question was not created or distributed by Goodyear corporate, nor was it part of a diversity training class. To be clear on our longstanding corporate policy, Goodyear has zero tolerance for any forms of harassment or discrimination. To enable a work environment free of those, we ask that associates refrain from workplace expressions in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party, as well as similar forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of racial justice and equity issues.
In other words, you can't have a MAGA cap, but can adorn yourself in all the BLM & LGBTQ stuff you want.
Clever. By including "forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of racial justice and equity issues" they are saying that BLM, etc., are not political and are, therefore, acceptable. All one has to do is look at the BLM platform to see that it is clearly political. Saying it isn't doesn't negate the fact.
Left wing spin and corporate BS weasel wording.
Paul
You took the words right out of my mouth. I will add that because of the weasel wording I believe that they're lying about it not being part of their "Diversity" training bull schit.
The backlash startled them and now they're trying to backpedal.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
Paul
Winner - Winner
It’s a shame that so many have no idea what the Constitution and the BOR says and what it means.
Try telling that to the folks that wouldn’t make a f a g cake.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
Paul
Winner - Winner
It’s a shame that so many have no idea what the Constitution and the BOR says and what it means.
Try telling that to the folks that wouldn’t make a f a g cake.
That was a civil right case, not a first amendment case.
Civil rights are “laws” passed by Congress, as in discrimination laws. Civil liberties are Constitutional rights as in the Bill of Rights and pertain only to Government actions.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
Paul
Winner - Winner
It’s a shame that so many have no idea what the Constitution and the BOR says and what it means.
Try telling that to the folks that wouldn’t make a f a g cake.
The post I responded to mentioned the First Amendment specifically. There are other laws that may be the basis for a legal claim. I haven't researched the cake case. Might have to do with offering services to the public, possibly a state statute
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
1st Ammendment.
How many times does it need to be said here that the Constitution, in this case the 1st Amendment, doesn't apply to private citizens or businesses? Only limits infringement on individual rights by government.
Doesn't in any way make Goodyear's actions less outrageous, just not illegal.
Paul
Winner - Winner
It’s a shame that so many have no idea what the Constitution and the BOR says and what it means.
Try telling that to the folks that wouldn’t make a f a g cake.
That wouldn't be a 1st Amendment case. But the Supreme Court ruled that they had the right to their religious freedom under the 1st Amendment, and tossed the case.
Protection against discrimination falls more directly under the 14th and 5th amendments.
For example, the Second Amendment doesn't prevent a business from prohibiting firearms on its property.
However, a state can take care of that by passing a law that allows firearms in an employee's car in the company parking lot, and not allowing an employer to prohibit it.
There are loads of tires made in the USA. Goodyear and Cooper are the only ones that started in the US, remained headquartered in the US, and have US plants.
But several other have plants here. Michelin is French and does, the Japs own Bridgestone and Firestone and make them here, Hangook the Korean company has plants here, Continental is the Krauts, etc etc.
Someone should also let Goodyear know that donations to BLM are connected directly to ActBlue, which is a political action committee for the DNC. BLM is specifically political.
Someone should also let Goodyear know that donations to BLM are connected directly to ActBlue, which is a political action committee for the DNC. BLM is specifically political.
I’m sure they are perfectly fine with that. As is most corporate America.
so what about goodyear welted boots? a lot of made in the USA brands like thorogood, timberland and others use goodyear welted soles, gonna make it hard to buy decent boots, I really like thorogood boots so I’ll be sending them a message to make them aware of my concerns, hopefully if enough people give feedback to the companies that buy from badyear, the companies will in turn voice their concerns to badyear, or even better find alternative suppliers.
I always assumed they were made by them, otherwise I can’t imagine them being allowed to use the name, be glad if I’m wrong, that way I can continue to buy my boots.
Goodyear welted footwear has effectively nothing to do with the Goodyear SJW corporation. It is a design for attaching an upper to a sole, invented by a guy named Goodyear.
Kinda hard for me to boycott what I don't buy anyway.
BUT... I know for a fact that Goodyear is a defense contractor.
I know for a fact also that they have a govt contract for many other agencies as well. Like the US Border Patrol. Reckon those boys go through some tires out there in the border country?
I bet Uncle Sam will be reviewing some purchase orders and contracts now...
I’ve bought plenty over the years with pretty good service out of them. Not always but farming I drove 75 percent gravel so if I got 35000 miles out of a set I was happy. Edk
Kinda hard for me to boycott what I don't buy anyway.
BUT... I know for a fact that Goodyear is a defense contractor.
I know for a fact also that they have a govt contract for many other agencies as well. Like the US Border Patrol. Reckon those boys go through some tires out there in the border country?
I bet Uncle Sam will be reviewing some purchase orders and contracts now...
Goodyear pitched a fit because SF ODA's were putting TSL Super Swampers on their HMMWV's and not long after that orders come down to take any Super Swampers off and get rid of them.
I remember seeing stacks of brand new 37 x 12.5 Super Swampers that we couldn't use. I sure would of rather had the Swampers when I was driving around over there.
Not true, President Trump gets an enormous amount of schit done, mostly by himself without the help of his own party.
I have said that his DOJ and his FBI are getting nothing done, unless of course you consider successfully obstructing congress and the truth “something”.
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
I'm on my 3rd set of Wrangler Kevlars, best tires that I have ever used. When I replace these in 15k miles it won't be w Goodyears. I wonder what is US made and next best?
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
With all due respect my man, you’re wrong about the Duratrac being in a class by themselves. They are decent tires for sure and my guys run them on several of our trucks,...but don’t kid yourself that they are magic. We run plenty of other tires that perform as well or better.
I liked them fine, but they can suck a progressive fat one as we can use an alternative as good or better that doesn’t play into this bullchit pandering.
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
With all due respect my man, you’re wrong about the Duratrac being in a class by themselves. They are decent tires for sure and my guys run them on several of our trucks,...but don’t kid yourself that they are magic. We run plenty of other tires that perform as well or better.
I liked them fine, but they can suck a progressive fat one as we can use an alternative as good or better that doesn’t play into this bullchit pandering.
Well then why didn't you post the "plenty of other tires that perform as well or better".
I am all ears because end of September I will be replacing tires and if there is something better I want it..
All ball busting and joking aside if you have a real world alternative too the Duratrac be specific.
Be sure and post the political statements of those tire manufactures.
I have found the BF Goodrich AT/KOs to be every bit as good as the Goodyear AT tires I have run both a Jeep Wrangler and 3/4 ton pickups. The Goodyear tires were of a softer rubber compound and got torn up easier in rocky trails. This guy seems happy with them:
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
Well there's some folks that will suck a willie for a dollar.
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
Well there's some folks that will suck a willie for a dollar.
Have run Goodyear MTR's (great tire), and Goodyear Duratracs (Duracraps). Latest purchase was Cooper ST Maxx. Will continue running those as long as they keep making them. No need or desire to go back to Goodyear. The Duracraps soured me....even thought the MTR's were a damn fine tire for an MT. But couldn't be happier with the Coopers. Tough tire that wears well, good to moderate traction in all conditions, and noise is not terrible.
My last set of coppers had a sidewall blowout on a Nascar gravel turn road. I was pulling a 14 foot trailer and it got sketchy. Cooper wouldn't make it right. I won't buy another tire of theirs.
Have run Goodyear MTR's (great tire), and Goodyear Duratracs (Duracraps). Latest purchase was Cooper ST Maxx. Will continue running those as long as they keep making them. No need or desire to go back to Goodyear. The Duracraps soured me....even thought the MTR's were a damn fine tire for an MT. But couldn't be happier with the Coopers. Tough tire that wears well, good to moderate traction in all conditions, and noise is not terrible.
Care to guess what brand of super tires the Beast runs on?
I don't like getting stuck, flat tires, slipping around on icy or snow packed roads, paying big bucks for tires, suffering fast wear, or getting stuck (said it twice).
Goodyear Duratacs are simply in a class by themselves for a hard use western tire.
Fact.
Goodyear backtracked enough for me.
You all who don't really need a superlative tire are free to keep expressing your outrage.
With all due respect my man, you’re wrong about the Duratrac being in a class by themselves. They are decent tires for sure and my guys run them on several of our trucks,...but don’t kid yourself that they are magic. We run plenty of other tires that perform as well or better.
I liked them fine, but they can suck a progressive fat one as we can use an alternative as good or better that doesn’t play into this bullchit pandering.
Well then why didn't you post the "plenty of other tires that perform as well or better".
I am all ears because end of September I will be replacing tires and if there is something better I want it..
All ball busting and joking aside if you have a real world alternative too the Duratrac be specific.
Be sure and post the political statements of those tire manufactures.
Thanks
John,
Cooper ST MAXXs, Cooper STT Pros, and Yokohama Geolander MTs.
I’m running the Geolanders now, and with 20k miles on them I’m prepared to declare them my favorite tires ever. I know you hunt more than a little bit my friend, but you don’t have the market cornered on hunting big, nasty country I assure you.
Cooper ST MAXXs, Cooper STT Pros, and Yokohama Geolander MTs.
I’m running the Geolanders now, and with 20k miles on them I’m prepared to declare them my favorite tires ever. I know you hunt more than a little bit my friend, but you don’t have the market cornered on hunting big, nasty country I assure you.
Just having some fun here and those Geolanders look good.
I am a bit tired of the Cancel Culture and if Goodyear wants to back off their BS I am inclined to let them do so.
Cooper ST MAXXs, Cooper STT Pros, and Yokohama Geolander MTs.
I’m running the Geolanders now, and with 20k miles on them I’m prepared to declare them my favorite tires ever. I know you hunt more than a little bit my friend, but you don’t have the market cornered on hunting big, nasty country I assure you.
Just having some fun here and those Geolanders look good.
I am a bit tired of the Cancel Culture and if Goodyear wants to back off their BS I am inclined to let them do so.
I hear you. It’s probably not a hill I’d die on either. Check the Yokohama’s out though. I think you’d be impressed.
so what about goodyear welted boots? a lot of made in the USA brands like thorogood, timberland and others use goodyear welted soles, gonna make it hard to buy decent boots, I really like thorogood boots so I’ll be sending them a message to make them aware of my concerns, hopefully if enough people give feedback to the companies that buy from badyear, the companies will in turn voice their concerns to badyear, or even better find alternative suppliers.
My dog has a new chewy toy. My boots with Goodyear welted soles.
Well some people don't require much character as they don't possess much character themselves.
I do require superlative tires.
I don't want to play cancel culture like the lefties practice.
But you feel free to get all outraged like the left does.
To be fair, if you don't need much from tires it's kewl to express your outrage but me and President Trump are still riding on Goodyear.
What's the odds the Beast won't be sportin Goodyears in 6 months?
That's the answer I expected, keep it up John boy.
This goes much, much deeper than all that.
Companies have been pushing the radical left's agenda for some time now, while tossing aside any conservative views on anything.
What we saw with Trump's calling out of Goodyear yesterday is called Pushing Back!
Pushing Back is a good thing!
Just as practicing Free Speech can have consequences for individuals, Pushing Back insures that there are consequences for corporations that pander to Leftist terrorism, or willfully work to promote it.
Cooper ST MAXXs, Cooper STT Pros, and Yokohama Geolander MTs.
I’m running the Geolanders now, and with 20k miles on them I’m prepared to declare them my favorite tires ever. I know you hunt more than a little bit my friend, but you don’t have the market cornered on hunting big, nasty country I assure you.
Just having some fun here and those Geolanders look good.
I am a bit tired of the Cancel Culture and if Goodyear wants to back off their BS I am inclined to let them do so.
I hear you. It’s probably not a hill I’d die on either. Check the Yokohama’s out though. I think you’d be impressed.
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
I guess that I'm ahead of my time. I just replaced the tires on my truck with Continetal's "Contact Force HT" I knew that Goodyear tires are junk from experience. Every set of Goodyear tires that I've owned ended in failure.
I guess that I'm ahead of my time. I just replaced the tires on my truck with Continetal's "Contact Force HT" I knew that Goodyear tires are junk from experience. Every set of Goodyear tires that I've owned ended in failure.
Same here. And when they were still "new", as in less than 5k miles. It took me a few times to learn.
I guess that I'm ahead of my time. I just replaced the tires on my truck with Continetal's "Contact Force HT" I knew that Goodyear tires are junk from experience. Every set of Goodyear tires that I've owned ended in failure.
Same here. And when they were still "new", as in less than 5k miles. It took me a few times to learn.
Yea, putting German tires on our trucks is our cross to bear. My RAM handles like a laser on a roller skate. These might be my forever tires.
I take it many people have never worked in big manufacturing or corporate settings where you have to pick your battles.
It really boils down to...
Keep the political crap out, but you need to be open on diversity and non-racist policy so you tolerate the BLM stuff because you have to avoid that land mine.
They have to keep the plant staffed and its probably a high amount of black people too.
I would make everyone wear a company uniform and hats and remove the choice.
Good Year just got sick of the political [bleep] and made policy.
Trump is pissed about his MAGA hats and forgets that the policy bars Biden hats.
I take it many people have never worked in big manufacturing or corporate settings where you have to pick your battles.
It really boils down to...
Keep the political crap out, but you need to be open on diversity and non-racist policy so you tolerate the BLM stuff because you have to avoid that land mine.
They have to keep the plant staffed and its probably a high amount of black people too.
I would make everyone wear a company uniform and hats and remove the choice.
Good Year just got sick of the political [bleep] and made policy.
Trump is pissed about his MAGA hats and forgets that the policy bars Biden hats.
5 guess that you have never had your diversity training scores brought up during a compensation review? Repeat after me.....cancelled.
I take it many people have never worked in big manufacturing or corporate settings where you have to pick your battles.
It really boils down to...
Keep the political crap out, but you need to be open on diversity and non-racist policy so you tolerate the BLM stuff because you have to avoid that land mine.
They have to keep the plant staffed and its probably a high amount of black people too.
I would make everyone wear a company uniform and hats and remove the choice.
Good Year just got sick of the political [bleep] and made policy.
Trump is pissed about his MAGA hats and forgets that the policy bars Biden hats.
5 guess that you have never had your diversity training scores brought up during a compensation review? Repeat after me.....cancelled.
No I haven't. We just take the training and learn to avoid & deal with it.
I'm sure its hard to get workers at a tire plant and you don't need have of them pissed off at the other half so just cut the politics and work.
I was running Goodyears on my pickup, but then they quit making the size tire I needed, and I went to Yoko Geolanders, which worked extremely well on a trip where the snow got deep and pretty slick. I never spun a tire on the whole trip, but I sure don't know why. I couldn't have done that on the Goodyears I was running before, though.
They support cops. Employees can wear pro Blue clothes.
No political apparel (that’s pretty common and goes both ways).
Didn’t touch the BLM or LGBT accepted apparel. Just more mush mouth backtracking that they don’t support hate.
The thing is, that besides BLM being a Marxist political group, even the name of the organization is about the most racist thing there is...
By saying Black Lives Mater, you are excluding all others into the "don't matter" groups, and are exclusively including only blacks based on their skin color.
Any person or company who supports, encourages, or even allows "Black Lives Matter" is making a statement that they don't give a damn about the 8,000 blacks who are murdered every year by blacks but only want to help BLM hype up the 10 (10 is the actual number) of unarmed blacks killed per year by our 800,000 police officers, in order to create mayhem and anarchy and destroy our freedom, which is their stated Marxist objective.
Goodyear is probably more guilty of stupidity than malice, but until they make amends, they can go to Hell.
There comes a time when enough is enough.
Since BLM doesn't show up in my town (because they know what might happen to them), boycotting Goodyear is the least I can do.
I take it many people have never worked in big manufacturing or corporate settings where you have to pick your battles.
It really boils down to...
Keep the political crap out, but you need to be open on diversity and non-racist policy so you tolerate the BLM stuff because you have to avoid that land mine.
They have to keep the plant staffed and its probably a high amount of black people too.
I would make everyone wear a company uniform and hats and remove the choice.
Good Year just got sick of the political [bleep] and made policy.
Trump is pissed about his MAGA hats and forgets that the policy bars Biden hats.
That's baloney. It so happens I used to RUN a mid-market manufacturing company. We were officially neutral and if BLM had ever showed up, or if someone had worn a BLM T-shirt, they would have politely been reminded that we didn't allow political slogans on the property. We were always neutral about things like that. A couple of times we sent employees home to change clothes.
Almost all manufacturing companies have the same policy. For one thing, if you allow one form of such expression, you are in danger of being required to allow "join the union" or similar stuff and nobody wants that.
If Goodyear made an exception for BLM, it was a deliberate decision.
So everyone gets to shut up and work except for the BLM and LGBTQ crowd. Got it.[/quot
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
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No I haven't. We just take the training and learn to avoid & deal with it.
I'm sure its hard to get workers at a tire plant and you don't need have of them pissed off at the other half so just cut the politics and work.
Just shut up and work.
Where the fuuck are you, Asia? In America, it ain't that simple, and hasn't been for a long time.
World wide companies.
Keep politics out, but race policies give them a pass. Accept it.
I worked in and international company for 41 years. The view is a bit different from the other side. A faceless corporation trying to become woke is dangerous for its workers.
The First Amendment has already been proposed and shot down. Do you know of a local law where this happened that protects that sort of freedom of expression in the workplace?
The NLRB isn’t going to be of help here either, in case anyone thinks of going in that direction.
On what grounds would you challenge it? What law does it violate?
Freedom of speech ( or expression)?
That is for preventing the government from restricting your speech or expression. Private industry is free to restrict as they see fit. (Of course the courts have twisted it sorts of ways differently than the founders intended)
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
There is a time to stand.
It really is that simple.
Agreed. Corporations talking out of both sides of their mouths are like politicians with hinged tongues. But I repeat myself.
They need to come totally clean. If there is a renegade employee in the bowels of the organization who came up with that fascistic twaddle, have they fired that person? Their boss that approved it?
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
There is a time to stand.
It really is that simple.
Indy,
They're the same mindset that keeps eyes glued to NFL games and "their teams".
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
There is a time to stand.
It really is that simple.
Indy,
They're the same mindset that keeps eyes glued to NFL games and "their teams".
Yes. Because no matter how diverse and changing they "feel" or are their demographics may be, the majority of their funds come from people with: A job A family A certain amount of expendable income A standard of living
If welfare is putting money back into business alone, EVERYONE is fugged.
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
There is a time to stand.
It really is that simple.
Indy,
They're the same mindset that keeps eyes glued to NFL games and "their teams".
Yes. Because no matter how diverse and changing they "feel" or are their demographics may be, the majority of their funds come from people with: A job A family A certain amount of expendable income A standard of living
If welfare is putting money back into business alone, EVERYONE is fugged.
Exactly!
Their BLM customers steal their tires from those of us who worked to pay for them. I guess they think it will spur greater sales. More theft = more working people replacing what BLM ayps stole.
All you guys talking about the merits of Goodyear tires vs. other brands are like Jews in Germany in 1938 discussing whether to vote for Goebbels or Himmler.
Until Goodyear explains whether--and why--they did what apparently they did, and explains whether or not they allow BLM stuff and prohibit American stuff, anyone who buys a Goodyear tire is simply not a decent American.
Their mealy mouthed nuanced "explanation" simply does not do that so far.
There is a time to stand.
It really is that simple.
Indy,
They're the same mindset that keeps eyes glued to NFL games and "their teams".
Yes. Because no matter how diverse and changing they "feel" or are their demographics may be, the majority of their funds come from people with: A job A family A certain amount of expendable income A standard of living
If welfare is putting money back into business alone, EVERYONE is fugged.
Exactly!
Their BLM customers steal their tires from those of us who worked to pay for them. I guess they think it will spur greater sales. More theft = more working people replacing what BLM ayps stole.
We are but one election cycle from just shooting schitbirds that do that, or at least I am...
If the Marxist pigs at Lightyear were truly consistent, they would have banned anything that wasn't acceptable business/work attire instead of making exceptions for Enemies Domestic.
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