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Looks like Ruger is going to get control of Marlin. The rest I could care less about. Imagine a 10/22 action with a good marlin barrel.
It might make me want to finally pull the trigger on an 1895.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/
Imagine a Marlin 39A with a 10/22 barrel.
Barnes ammo
Remington accutip 3 inch 20 gauge slugs.


Hopefully some ammo manufactuer will pick em up.
Weird. So Ruger gets Marlin, is that Federal that bought the ammo business? And some holding company gets Remington arms? And Sierra gets Barnes bullets
AS long as someone continues to make Barnes bullets, of the "non-lead" type, I'll be happy. The supply of ammo we can use for hunting here is not overwhelming as it stands now, losing another MFG would really suck.

I might just have to talk my wife into moving to TN laugh

(It'll never happen, we lived back east and she's vehemently opposed to going back to the other side of the Rockies. She can deal with our stuff out here, but not humidity, hurricanes, tornadoes, salt on the roads, etc)
Ruger gets Marlin? Well, all right! I have waited years, no, decades, for a plastic stocked Model 39 that comes in 27 different colors and camo patterns, not to mention 87 different intricately laser engraved scenes on the wooden stocks...


But seriously, I don't see this as a bad thing at all. the old Marlin quality really was on the same level as Ruger's long term quality and that's not a damning statement. Both built their business on workmanlike firearms that were plenty "good enough" to get the job done, all at an affordable price point. With Ruger's skill at bringing products to market quickly maybe they will expand the lineup and existing Marlin models or chamberings. And maybe, yeah, I know this is like a 1 in a brazillion zillion chance, but maybe they will finally put 1:20" twist barrels on Model 1894 .44 Magnums.


Of course, the real elephant in the room is how this will affect the vituperative 10/22 vs. Model 60 arguments?? confused
Imagine a Marlin 39A under 3 grand.
Originally Posted by doubletap
Imagine a Marlin 39A with a 10/22 barrel.



OK, almost barfed on my keyboard.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I might just have to talk my wife into moving to TN laugh


Y'all could by the place next to Bristoe and rent that pond to him.........
Originally Posted by doubletap
Imagine a Marlin 39A with a 10/22 barrel.
have you checked the price of a new 39-A?
Be interesting to see what Ruger does with Marlin. They don’t need the bolt action/semiauto rimfire guns, but they CAN do something with the lever action rifles. It’d be great to see lots of variations and special editions of the lever guns, like Ruger has done with their own stuff, through Lipseys/etc.

At least they’ll concentrate on making GUNS, not on creating debt..
https://wibx950.com/preliminary-details-of-remington-bankruptcy-has-ilion-worried/

This says they (Roundhill) got Remington for $13 million??? How did some other gun company NOT jump on that??
A lever action 22 would be a nice thing for ruger. Would investment cast steel parts work on a 39 design? Maybe make a comeback, and a choice available other than the Henry.
sportsmans whorehouse and tapco, a marriage made in heaven!
I thought the ammo business was bought by Palmetto State in S. Carolina. I was hoping Ruger would buy the Marlin brand. Lever actions go good with their western revolvers. They could sell them as a combo. Maybe S&W will buy the shotgun rifle business.

That leaves H&R, Bushmaster, and DPMS.
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
But seriously, I don't see this as a bad thing at all. the old Marlin quality really was on the same level as Ruger's long term quality and that's not a damning statement. Both built their business on workmanlike firearms that were plenty "good enough" to get the job done, all at an affordable price point. With Ruger's skill at bringing products to market quickly maybe they will expand the lineup and existing Marlin models or chamberings. And maybe, yeah, I know this is like a 1 in a brazillion zillion chance, but maybe they will finally put 1:20" twist barrels on Model 1894 .44 Magnums.


Of course, the real elephant in the room is how this will affect the vituperative 10/22 vs. Model 60 arguments?? confused


That’s how I see it too. Different firearms but I think there are a lot of parallels between them and that they’re a natural fit.

Barnes should be in safe hands with Sierra. I’m glad to see that both are staying with American companies.
Maybe we can get an 1894 in .480 Ruger!
Damn I was hoping there'd be some good Marlins again.
Well, I'm a Rem fan, but this semi-old man has what he needs. Just sad that such an iconic American gun company might leave us. Happy, that the brand might rise out of the ashes. How the brands remain or are distributed remains to be seen.

But, there ain't no 2 ways about it, some new start ups could be very interesting. Rem struggled with Marlin, that was struggling when they bought it. Ruger better hold on. The ride should be worth watching.
Remingtons biggest problem was debt, and the fact that they were being sued by the sandy hook victims.I would assume that the courts are steming that for the new owners. Maybe that's why the bid was so low for that portion of the company. Remingron couldn't make anything the public wanted these last few years. Marlin is finally up and running and making a hell of a nice product , hopefully that can continue.
Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
That leaves H&R, Bushmaster, and DPMS.

If you go to the link in the OP, you can find out about those too.
Originally Posted by fburgtx
https://wibx950.com/preliminary-details-of-remington-bankruptcy-has-ilion-worried/

This says they (Roundhill) got Remington for $13 million??? How did some other gun company NOT jump on that??



They also assume a lot of liability.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I might just have to talk my wife into moving to TN laugh


Y'all could by the place next to Bristoe and rent that pond to him.........





He's in KT I do believe.

But, if I were to move there, I might let him fish in it for free.......................if he gives up bashing Californians...................Bash the State, sure......but the people are off limits.
How long before varmint guy starts the next remington dissolution thread? A pool ?
Well, the acquisition of Barnes gives Sierra a foot in the door of the "non-lead" ammo side of things.

Unless I'm mistaken, they presently don't have an offering in that format.
Originally Posted by HankMcMauser
Remingtons biggest problem was debt, and the fact that they were being sued by the sandy hook victims.I would assume that the courts are steming that for the new owners. Maybe that's why the bid was so low for that portion of the company. Remingron couldn't make anything the public wanted these last few years. Marlin is finally up and running and making a hell of a nice product , hopefully that can continue.


Their biggest problem was they were purchased by a capital firm.....those are interested in one thing, sucking as much profit from the existing business as possible, then selling off the remains.
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.
Originally Posted by deflave
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.



This. I hope that they decide to manufacture the 39A and are able to hold the cost down a little with their more modern approach to manufacturing, if they do I will be one of the first to buy one. Drug my feet too long in the past to get one. The lever guns should go hand in hand with their single action revolvers. I've probably had better luck with Ruger quality control as I've had with Kimber, Remington (the worst) or Winchester ( not the present company).
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Damn I was hoping there'd be some good Marlins again.

If Ruger is involved no more Marlins for Me
Which will come 1st:

1. "Marlin" 96/22

2. Marlin 39-A in SS and Left-Handed



Originally Posted by horse1
Which will come 1st:

1. "Marlin" 96/22

2. Marlin 39-A in SS and Left-Handed


I love those 96's.

I need to snag one sooner or later.
Originally Posted by grumpy7904
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Damn I was hoping there'd be some good Marlins again.

If Ruger is involved no more Marlins for Me


You buy you a bad Ruger?
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by deflave
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.



This. I hope that they decide to manufacture the 39A and are able to hold the cost down a little with their more modern approach to manufacturing, if they do I will be one of the first to buy one. Drug my feet too long in the past to get one. The lever guns should go hand in hand with their single action revolvers. I've probably had better luck with Ruger quality control as I've had with Kimber, Remington (the worst) or Winchester ( not the present company).


I love the 39 and they are nice guns, but if you ever come across a BL-22 try and put hands on it before walking away.

They are incredible.
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by deflave
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.



This. I hope that they decide to manufacture the 39A and are able to hold the cost down a little with their more modern approach to manufacturing, if they do I will be one of the first to buy one. Drug my feet too long in the past to get one. The lever guns should go hand in hand with their single action revolvers. I've probably had better luck with Ruger quality control as I've had with Kimber, Remington (the worst) or Winchester ( not the present company).


I like Ruger. So there’s that...

But a high QC, highly finished complex manufactured lever right isn’t exactly what Ruger has been moving towards.

They don’t even make a wood/blued 77/Hawkeye anymore other than the African limited offerings. Same for 77/22. They’ve figured out they can sell a bunch of entry label poorly finished guns and make more money than selling a single better finished gun.
Originally Posted by Cheesy
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by deflave
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.



This. I hope that they decide to manufacture the 39A and are able to hold the cost down a little with their more modern approach to manufacturing, if they do I will be one of the first to buy one. Drug my feet too long in the past to get one. The lever guns should go hand in hand with their single action revolvers. I've probably had better luck with Ruger quality control as I've had with Kimber, Remington (the worst) or Winchester ( not the present company).


I like Ruger. So there’s that...

But a high QC, highly finished complex manufactured lever right isn’t exactly what Ruger has been moving towards.

They don’t even make a wood/blued 77/Hawkeye anymore other than the African limited offerings. Same for 77/22. They’ve figured out they can sell a bunch of entry label poorly finished guns and make more money than selling a single better finished gun.


Thats just smart business. I think with modern tooling, and machinery the Marlin levers should be a profitable business venture. Unfortunately they'll have to move all that, or lease the existing facility from the new owners. Let's hope they find a way to make it work .
I'm afraid I'm going to have to call someone at Dakota to find out what's going on there. The Remington Custom Shop moved out there some years ago.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I might just have to talk my wife into moving to TN laugh


Y'all could by the place next to Bristoe and rent that pond to him.........





He's in KT I do believe.

But, if I were to move there, I might let him fish in it for free.......................if he gives up bashing Californians...................Bash the State, sure......but the people are off limits.

But the state is beautiful. The people are the problem.
From my standpoint, and only because I like the round, the fact that Ruger made the Hawkeye pistol, and Marlin a Levermatic chambered in .256 Winchester Magnum, perhaps a now joint company can come up with something reasonably priced in that chambering?

A Marlin 94 chambered in .357 doesn't seem like something hard to convert to a .257 cal barrel, does it?
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I might just have to talk my wife into moving to TN laugh


Y'all could by the place next to Bristoe and rent that pond to him.........





He's in KT I do believe.

But, if I were to move there, I might let him fish in it for free.......................if he gives up bashing Californians...................Bash the State, sure......but the people are off limits.

But the state is beautiful. The people are the problem.



Wrong, "some" people are the problem. Mainly the "elected" ones. Elected by those that live in cities. And most of those aren't real "people" in my mind, just automatons.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by deflave
Ruger is an incredible company.

This will only be good for Marlin and gun nuts.



This. I hope that they decide to manufacture the 39A and are able to hold the cost down a little with their more modern approach to manufacturing, if they do I will be one of the first to buy one. Drug my feet too long in the past to get one. The lever guns should go hand in hand with their single action revolvers. I've probably had better luck with Ruger quality control as I've had with Kimber, Remington (the worst) or Winchester ( not the present company).


I love the 39 and they are nice guns, but if you ever come across a BL-22 try and put hands on it before walking away.

They are incredible.



The BL-22 would be the smart choice no doubt, but you know how gun loonies are. My favorite uncle loaned me his 39A when I was about 14 years old to take and use as my own. I killed more squirrels with that thing behind my dad's house than I should ever admit. I bought one of the Henry lever 22 rifles, nice gun also. But I just have a spot in my heart I need to fill with that 39A.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
From my standpoint, and only because I like the round, the fact that Ruger made the Hawkeye pistol, and Marlin a Levermatic chambered in .256 Winchester Magnum, perhaps a now joint company can come up with something reasonably priced in that chambering?

A Marlin 94 chambered in .357 doesn't seem like something hard to convert to a .257 cal barrel, does it?

If you ever see that you better jump without hesitation. That is such a tiny niche market it would have to be a Lipsey's to happen.
The interesting part of this for me is that Vista will own 3 out of the 4 domestic primer companies: Remington, Federal and CCI. Winchester will be the only outlier.
Originally Posted by Armednfree
Originally Posted by Valsdad
From my standpoint, and only because I like the round, the fact that Ruger made the Hawkeye pistol, and Marlin a Levermatic chambered in .256 Winchester Magnum, perhaps a now joint company can come up with something reasonably priced in that chambering?

A Marlin 94 chambered in .357 doesn't seem like something hard to convert to a .257 cal barrel, does it?

If you ever see that you better jump without hesitation. That is such a tiny niche market it would have to be a Lipsey's to happen.


Rest assured, I will.

I might just buy two, one to keep in the safe, unfired, as an investment.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Armednfree
Originally Posted by Valsdad
From my standpoint, and only because I like the round, the fact that Ruger made the Hawkeye pistol, and Marlin a Levermatic chambered in .256 Winchester Magnum, perhaps a now joint company can come up with something reasonably priced in that chambering?

A Marlin 94 chambered in .357 doesn't seem like something hard to convert to a .257 cal barrel, does it?

If you ever see that you better jump without hesitation. That is such a tiny niche market it would have to be a Lipsey's to happen.


Rest assured, I will.

I might just buy two, one to keep in the safe, unfired, as an investment.

In that, and off topic, to make 256 Win brass from 357 you would be coming in a bit short. 360 DW would work and give you more beef in the case head. I think as you work it down I wouldn't use a decapping pin or neck expander. I'd do that separately. The question is then if the chamber will safely allow that thicker neck or would they need to be turned.
Originally Posted by Woodhits
The interesting part of this for me is that Vista will own 3 out of the 4 domestic primer companies: Remington, Federal and CCI. Winchester will be the only outlier.


That is not good. Imagine if Bloomberg really wanted to make good on hurting gun owners...Vista has a market cap of only $1.1B. Write a check and physically dismantle the company.
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