The cuckservitives are are all ready to move on from their nightmare that the God Emperor has been for them. Wringing their hands and talking about transition. https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...rt-a-transition-to-biden-administration/
Trump needs to form a conservative populist party and send the Republicans to the dust bin of history. Trump could take the center of both parties and form a dominant party that would regulate what’s left of the Republicans to what they do best , ineffectual whining , and the Democrats reduced to the loony left with no power.
Gate keepers like Carlson and Fox News are losing all credibility. The field is more open than ever to a third party with the leadership of both parties abandoning the middle of the political spectrum.

I think the term for the middle of the political spectrum is "moderates".

kind of where most people live and work, not on the fringe of either party.

there appears to be either more money, or more media air time on the far ends of the spectrum, so that is where the politicians of both persuasions spend their time.

Nobody who voted Democrat in *this* election is a moderate. They're either anti American or they're a fuggin' schitt for brains idiot.

GOP about to come out swinging in January - full of sound and fury as they rejoice in being in the MINORITY in the House. Oh, please donate heavily to your local GOP loser so they can continue the scam that they respond to the Will of The People....

There's a lot of folks from both sides that just want the opportunity to work and make a living. Don't want to see us tied up in senseless foreign war. Want to see manufacturing come back to this country. Want to see us producing our own energy in all it's forms. Don't really care if gays marry. Don't want to pay in a huge portion of their wages in taxes. Are sick of corruption on wall street and in Government.
Sick of being sold out by the people elected to represent us. Sick of paying way too much for health care. Sick of paying way too much for higher education. Want to see their kids do better than they did.
The fringe of both parties, if they haven't taken over, they're screaming so loud that the majority are getting drowned out.

I believe that

That's spot on. Get the f out of my way and let me make a living.
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Sorry for not jumping in with both feet to the latest conspiracy theory of the day that never goes anywhere.

Yes. Just add the pro-2A part and I’m sold.

You are forgetting The Reason WHY we are at this point!

Voter Fraud, Election Fraud.

Starting another party, isn't going to change anything unless this "New" party controls the Voting Machines, the Mail-in ballots and the entire election process.

Trump thought he had it all figured out way back in 2016. He set traps, he appointed czars, He hired attorneys, he appointed cabinet members, all geared up and ready to save the election process in America and our Republic. Well, as it turns out, those he trusted betrayed him and betrayed America. Never again will we have a free, fare and honest election in America, "NEW Trump party or not.

It was a cliche once, now it is a REALITY.

"It's not the votes that count, it's who counts the votes"

3d parties are nice to talk about but unless they can pull enough EC votes to keep the main parties from winning the EC elections, all they will do is split the vote and guarantee the Dems will win every time. If they pulled a few EC votes and got it to the house, they would HAVE to have enough congressmen to win and that's highly unlikely. If they're serious about winning, 1st they have to win enough congressional seats to win in a tied election. Since each state gets 1 vote, they'd need to have a majority in 26 states to win.

Very well said.

Three parties wont happen until we have voting reform to get away from the simplistic, primitive voting that we use now. It perpetuates the two-party system.

Trump won in a landslide, but he didn't win.

What makes anyone with more than two brain cells left to rub together believe that voting and party affiliation is still a viable option.

This is over people, it cannot be fixed. They won.

You rollin' over?

Was there fraud? sure. Was it just the fact that more than likely 50.2% of the country just doesn't see things the same way as us any more? Probably.
It's a crazy system that incentivises people not to work. We, as a collective society are to blame. Somewhere along the line "Family" lost it's importance. Society got too busy and too caught up in "the individual"
and decided they'd let someone else raise their children. Be it the public education system or electronic media.

The issue with many Republican politicians is the way they are “recruited”. Local “sensible” lawyer gets encouraged by the the local “old farts” of the local GOP. These are not the types of folks pushing political “change”. They are either there for themselves, or to push a particular financial agenda.

Folks are gonna have to “infiltrate” the GOP on a local level, and start pushing real conservatives to run.

You saw this, to some extent, with the Tea Party in 2010. The GOP rode this enthusiasm to Senate/Congressional victories in 10/12/14, but basically crapped all over them, treating them like those crazy relatives you don’t invite to Xmas. You’ll notice that the Dems have better sense than to label their “extremists” as wingnuts. They embrace them (or at least, embrace their voting block.

Republicans FINALLY had a base of voters that was willing to protest/raise hell (Tea Party), and they basically blew them off/dismissed them.

My feelings exactly.

Dark greedy forces entrenched will probably not let this happen .....

WOW! How stupid do you need to be to post this on a gun forum? This mutt is one stupid Pucker +P. Thank god for the
Ignore button.

I like the idea of a new party.

All of those people are Republicans already. That's why Trump won this election in a landslide.

The only people who aren't Republicans these days are,...as I said, either anti American or schitt for brains idiots.

There's examples of both posting on the forum.

That’s about how I see it.

I think there’s a lot of people that want basically similar things but there to stupid to think for themselves as make sound decisions. They want everything mentioned above but then someone says we can’t separate children at the border, people come here to better themselves, we need to be more inclusive, one child lost to gun violence is to many, and on and on and a substantial number fall for it even though it’s not in there best interest. Kind of like a woman that picks losers over and over. She can tell you what she wants but can’t seem to pick it.
And then you factor all of the big money flooding politics from the insurance industry and every other special interest group that has a direct ear to the politicians and its part of why we are where we are.

Don't hold your breath waiting for Democrat brains to become unschitted. The Democrats of 2020 are *very* fugged up people in one way or another.

They're not going to wake up rational tomorrow.

There's nothing simplistic about complex corrupt voting machines and the crooked systems behind them.

Simplistic, primitive voting with paper ballots, one each to a live, vetted person would be ideal, compared to that fraudulent criminal mess.

Start hanging some of these bastards or put them away for life and watch how fast election fraud goes away.

if it weren't for cuckservatives there would be no "conservatives". like the guy that posted I just want to make a living dont care about gays etc. to dumb and cucked to see the gay agenda is tied to the EPA which drove out factories. they are all connected to the communist agenda. not paying attention and absorbed with making money is exactly what they want. where do you think they get the taxes from that fund the wars college debt wall st healthcare etc? maybe from you working?

That explains the partisan vote tally"s in house and senate

Spot on buddy


Trump 2020
KAGS

Conservatives win and demons lose.

when you stay in the middle of the road (or politics) you get run over

The fraud needs to be investigated and vigorously prosecuted. Rolling over and saying better luck next time doesn't cut it. There is no next time. Stockholm Syndrome in action.

Almost as bad as Qtards and Powellcucks

Can you define what a "moderate" is and cite examples of how they view particular issues?

yes

Yep...I know too many people that grew up with families voting straight Democrat that have all now switched to Republican...Maybe their is a few holdout moderates left in the DEM party but I doubt there is many...

Oh well. The wife and I got raped fair and square. He was kinda nice, though. Jeezus.

If Trump couldn't win the the power of an incumbent and one of the best economies in history what makes anyone believe he can come back in 4 yrs as 3rd party and win? really

If they get away with stealing this election, no election in the future will matter.... they will make sure they are never removed from power again.

Many seem to have some strong denial going on.

Hint... they are already firing up the cheat machine for the Senate runoffs in Georgia.....

100% on both.
Well said JM.

So what are you going to do if they shut you down because of the flu? Jail you for owning a gun? Tax you so heavily you can't maintain a decent lifestyle?
You may not enjoy politics but they plan on enjoying your productivity..... you will be slaves
This is directed more at Calvin than Jack

Or they love debt forgiveness, reparations to assuage white guilt or just like free scchitt.

I do agree that’s rather hard core.

You’ve got it all figured out then. The gays are fuggin up the environment. I’m curious how you connected those dots, but definitely not enough to dive down that rabbit hole with you.

I’m gonna keep going as long as I can without shooting. I think everyone here is smart enough to realize that ain’t happening til there’s no other choice. There are lines that have to be drawn. Confiscation of privately owned real estate or other personal property by the govt, including, but not exclusive to, firearms is where I will draw my line. I would rather die than live unarmed, because in short order after they’d accomplish that, the living will be worse than the dying. As long as there’s some semblance of freedom in this country, I’ll keep working, living and loving my family.

Edit to add: I’ll also keep living in an area where the local law enforce will not enforce unconstitutional laws. If it changes here, I’ll move. I’ll disengage more and more with society as finances allow.
If you live in an urban area, it’s a decision you’ll have to live with and obviously your choices may have to be made sooner than mine.

Jack, understood completely. This stuff has been on my radar for years. I took action and moved to a conservative area and set myself to be independent....

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people that sit in liberal schitholes complaining about tax's, oppressive government, crime and racial unrest...

Me too. Family history in this country starts before the time of its inception, and within walking distance of some of the greatest political thinkers of all time.
At the same time, there’s a pattern of abuse and transgression by the coal and timber companies, the bankers that financed them, and undeniably the government.
My DNA came preprogrammed with a healthy dose of suspicion and distrust for any big city outsider who claims to want to “help” me.

The reality is that those nuttier than squirrel [bleep] are starting to take over the Republican Party and drown out the voices of the rest. The far right has adopted the cancel culture just as the far left has.

Are you referring to Trump?

For me personally, I think people better get over this idea that they are moderate anything. Whether a person likes it or not, you better be on one side or the other, and if you are on the left, you are no friend of anyone on the right. IMHO moderates are just too gutless to make a stand with one side or the other.